From: GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA Subject: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:52:22 +0100 Hi, I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog in my case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… Has it been tested yet? What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying airframe firmware definitions? Thanks
From: Piotr Esden-Tempski Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:51:28 -0800 Hi, As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: > Hi, > I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog in my > case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… > Has it been tested yet? > What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying airframe > firmware definitions? > Thanks Cheers Esden -- Blog: http://www.esden.net Projects: http://open-bldc.org http://paparazziuav.org http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain
From: David Conger Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:51:24 +0000 (GMT) Is it true then that JobyRobotics will only support hardware from JobyRobotics and not Paparazzi Open Source hardware? David On Mar 01, 2011, at 09:51 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> wrote: Hi, As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: > Hi, > I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog in my > case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… > Has it been tested yet? > What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying airframe > firmware definitions? > Thanks Cheers Esden -- Blog: http://www.esden.net Projects: http://open-bldc.org http://paparazziuav.org http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain _______________________________________________ Paparazzi-devel mailing list address@hidden http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel
From: Marc Schwarzbach Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:28:23 +0100 Hi David, the question is what you understand by support. They can generally be seen as a provider of hardware, so they will support what they sell for the people that buy it (when it comes to hardware problems). Everything more would be nice, of course... Regarding software, anybody can write a driver for e.g. Aspirin on a TWOG. The driver for Lisa could be the base. Thatīs the work for the community. Thatīs what Piotr probably meant by "no support yet". So letīs work on that or everything else what will bring the system ahead. Regarding the discussion on open source hardware I think (more then :-) everything has been said on DIY-Drones: http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/new-imu-board-for-paparazzibut?commentId=705844%3AComment%3A296281&xg_source=msg_com_blogpost Cheers Marc -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:51:24 +0000 (GMT) > Von: David Conger < address@hidden> > An: address@hidden > CC: address@hidden > Betreff: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU > Is it true then that JobyRobotics will only support hardware from > JobyRobotics and not Paparazzi Open Source hardware? > David > > On Mar 01, 2011, at 09:51 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> wrote: > > Hi, > > As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots > like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. > It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to > get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will > definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog > in my case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… > > Has it been tested yet? > > What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying > airframe firmware definitions? > > Thanks > > Cheers Esden > > -- > Blog: http://www.esden.net > Projects: > http://open-bldc.org > http://paparazziuav.org > http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag > http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain > > _______________________________________________ > Paparazzi-devel mailing list > address@hidden > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
From: David Conger Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:42:18 -0800 Hello, I am not trying to antagonize, just if I bought an aspirin imu it would be to use on a TWOG or Tiny. It affects my purchase decision knowing this so thank you for the clarification. Regards, David On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Marc Schwarzbach < address@hidden> wrote: > Hi David, > > the question is what you understand by support. > They can generally be seen as a provider of hardware, so they will support > what they sell for the people that buy it (when it comes to hardware > problems). Everything more would be nice, of course... > > Regarding software, anybody can write a driver for e.g. Aspirin on a TWOG. > The driver for Lisa could be the base. Thatīs the work for the community. > Thatīs what Piotr probably meant by "no support yet". > > So letīs work on that or everything else what will bring the system ahead. > > Regarding the discussion on open source hardware I think (more then :-) > everything has been said on DIY-Drones: > http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/new-imu-board-for-paparazzibut?commentId=705844%3AComment%3A296281&xg_source=msg_com_blogpost > > Cheers > > Marc > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:51:24 +0000 (GMT) >> Von: David Conger < address@hidden> >> An: address@hidden >> CC: address@hidden >> Betreff: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU > >> Is it true then that JobyRobotics will only support hardware from >> JobyRobotics and not Paparazzi Open Source hardware? >> David >> >> On Mar 01, 2011, at 09:51 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots >> like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. >> It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to >> get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will >> definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. >> >> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog >> in my case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… >>> Has it been tested yet? >>> What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying >> airframe firmware definitions? >>> Thanks >> >> Cheers Esden >> >> -- >> Blog: http://www.esden.net >> Projects: >> http://open-bldc.org >> http://paparazziuav.org >> http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag >> http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Paparazzi-devel mailing list >> address@hidden >> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel > > -- > GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit > gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > _______________________________________________ > Paparazzi-devel mailing list > address@hidden > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel
From: antoine drouin Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 21:26:35 +0100 Calm down, David. I'm sure there will be an aspirin driver for LPC2148 soon. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:51 PM, David Conger < address@hidden> wrote: > Is it true then that JobyRobotics will only support hardware from > JobyRobotics and not Paparazzi Open Source hardware? > > David > > On Mar 01, 2011, at 09:51 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> wrote: > > Hi, > > As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots > like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. > It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to > get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will > definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog in >> my case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… >> Has it been tested yet? >> What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying airframe >> firmware definitions? >> Thanks > > Cheers Esden > > -- > Blog: http://www.esden.net > Projects: > http://open-bldc.org > http://paparazziuav.org > http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag > http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain > > _______________________________________________ > Paparazzi-devel mailing list > address@hidden > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel > > _______________________________________________ > Paparazzi-devel mailing list > address@hidden > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel > >
From: David Conger Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:44:28 -0800 Hmm. I did not mean to use a tone in my email that was anything buy a simple wonder if I should buy an aspirin for my TWOG or not. Regards, David On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:26 PM, antoine drouin < address@hidden> wrote: > Calm down, David. I'm sure there will be an aspirin driver for LPC2148 soon. > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:51 PM, David Conger < address@hidden> wrote: >> Is it true then that JobyRobotics will only support hardware from >> JobyRobotics and not Paparazzi Open Source hardware? >> >> David >> >> On Mar 01, 2011, at 09:51 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots >> like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. >> It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to >> get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will >> definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. >> >> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog in >>> my case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… >>> Has it been tested yet? >>> What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying airframe >>> firmware definitions? >>> Thanks >> >> Cheers Esden >> >> -- >> Blog: http://www.esden.net >> Projects: >> http://open-bldc.org >> http://paparazziuav.org >> http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag >> http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Paparazzi-devel mailing list >> address@hidden >> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Paparazzi-devel mailing list >> address@hidden >> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Paparazzi-devel mailing list > address@hidden > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel
From: Piotr Esden-Tempski Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:55:28 -0800 Hi, I believe you that you did not mean it the way it got perceived. :) We currently don't have the resources to back port the Lisa/L aspirin driver to the other platforms. It should still be a straight forward process, as the driver itself is not hardware dependent and is using the underlying spi and i2c drivers. On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:44 PM, David Conger wrote: > Hmm. I did not mean to use a tone in my email that was anything buy a simple > wonder if I should buy an aspirin for my TWOG or not. > > Regards, > David > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:26 PM, antoine drouin < address@hidden> wrote: > >> Calm down, David. I'm sure there will be an aspirin driver for LPC2148 soon. >> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:51 PM, David Conger < address@hidden> wrote: >>> Is it true then that JobyRobotics will only support hardware from >>> JobyRobotics and not Paparazzi Open Source hardware? >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Mar 01, 2011, at 09:51 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots >>> like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. >>> It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to >>> get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will >>> definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog in >>>> my case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… >>>> Has it been tested yet? >>>> What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying airframe >>>> firmware definitions? >>>> Thanks >>> >>> Cheers Esden Cheers Esden -- Blog: http://www.esden.net Projects: http://open-bldc.org http://paparazziuav.org http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain
From: Roman Krashanitsa Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] AspirinIMU Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:45:31 -0800 Hi, I agree with David that as much information as possible should be given to a paying customer upfront. HOWEVER. This is not a windows products shopping spree. This a DIY area experimental hardware. Description pretty much stated what it is and even lists accel, gyto, etc chips used in this board. Interfaces are also listed. Thats all you need. pretty much. Sure, there is a little note that it is compartible with Lisa/L and there is a reference to a paparazzi page. In my opinion, this is what confuses us most of us. We would immediately conclude that this is "paparazzi compatible". But there is no such a thing. Simply put, some hardware was already used by fellow paparazzi-ers and they made some code for it. In my opinion, paparazzi is not even ardupilot, it is more involving and more demanding. more technical if you want. And this is how I like it. Well, sorry for rant. I am done :) Sincerely, Roman Krashanitsa 2011/3/1 Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> Hi, I believe you that you did not mean it the way it got perceived. :) We currently don't have the resources to back port the Lisa/L aspirin driver to the other platforms. It should still be a straight forward process, as the driver itself is not hardware dependent and is using the underlying spi and i2c drivers. On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:44 PM, David Conger wrote: > Hmm. I did not mean to use a tone in my email that was anything buy a simple > wonder if I should buy an aspirin for my TWOG or not. > > Regards, > David > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:26 PM, antoine drouin < address@hidden> wrote: > >> Calm down, David. I'm sure there will be an aspirin driver for LPC2148 soon. >> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:51 PM, David Conger < address@hidden> wrote: >>> Is it true then that JobyRobotics will only support hardware from >>> JobyRobotics and not Paparazzi Open Source hardware? >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Mar 01, 2011, at 09:51 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski < address@hidden> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As far as I know there is no AspirinIMU support for the older autopilots >>> like TINY and TWOG yet. There are drivers for Lisa/L that you can use there. >>> It may need some work. I don't know what exactly has to be done though to >>> get Aspirin run on TWOG, I don't have one and never used one. :) You will >>> definitely need an SPI and an I2C interface. >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:52 AM, GARCIA ALVAREZ, ANA wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I have a question about this IMU, how is it wired to the autopilot(twog in >>>> my case)? I suppose it is needed the carrier board… >>>> Has it been tested yet? >>>> What steps must be followed to make it run? Is it only modifying airframe >>>> firmware definitions? >>>> Thanks >>> >>> Cheers Esden Cheers Esden -- Blog: http://www.esden.net Projects: http://open-bldc.org http://paparazziuav.org http://github.org/esden/floss-jtag http://github.org/esden/summon-arm-toolchain _______________________________________________ Paparazzi-devel mailing list address@hidden http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel
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