From: Simon Goodwin
Subject: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa/M CheatSheet
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:29:52 +0200
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Dear Paparazzians,
find attached "Lisa/M CheatSheet" which I compiled while getting warm with
this nice little board.
I would like to ask you to fill in the voids or correct errors so I can
finish it off and make it available.
Where would be the place to put something like this?
The Lisa/M page on the Wiki?
The doc dir in the repo?
The downloads page on the wiki?
Maybe create a new Page for CheatSheets?
Cheers
Simon
From: Chris Gough
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa/M CheatSheet
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:23:11 +1000
Hi Simon,
for the servo plugs, it's not clear if "top" or "bottom" is closest to
the board. Which way is up?
Chris Gough
2011/7/18 Simon Goodwin < address@hidden>:
> Dear Paparazzians,
>
> find attached "Lisa/M CheatSheet" which I compiled while getting warm with
> this nice little board.
>
> I would like to ask you to fill in the voids or correct errors so I can
> finish it off and make it available.
>
> Where would be the place to put something like this?
> The Lisa/M page on the Wiki?
> The doc dir in the repo?
> The downloads page on the wiki?
> Maybe create a new Page for CheatSheets?
>
> Cheers
> Simon
>
>
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From: Piotr Esden-Tempski
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa/M CheatSheet
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:06:23 -0700
Hey,
Awesome cheat sheet! :) Do you want the original omnigraffle files? :)
Simon: that is my fault. I thought it is clear as you are looking in the
picture at the top of the board… so top pins are the ones highest above the top
of the board. I am not sure how to make an annotation that would be clearer
then this. ;) Ideas are welcome! :D
Cheers Esden
On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Chris Gough wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> for the servo plugs, it's not clear if "top" or "bottom" is closest to
> the board. Which way is up?
>
> Chris Gough
>
>
> 2011/7/18 Simon Goodwin < address@hidden>:
>> Dear Paparazzians,
>>
>> find attached "Lisa/M CheatSheet" which I compiled while getting warm with
>> this nice little board.
>>
>> I would like to ask you to fill in the voids or correct errors so I can
>> finish it off and make it available.
>>
>> Where would be the place to put something like this?
>> The Lisa/M page on the Wiki?
>> The doc dir in the repo?
>> The downloads page on the wiki?
>> Maybe create a new Page for CheatSheets?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Paparazzi-devel mailing list
>> address@hidden
>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/paparazzi-devel
>>
>>
>
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From: Chris Gough
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa/M CheatSheet
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:31:13 +1000
> I thought it is clear as you are looking in the picture at the top of the
> board…
> so top pins are the ones highest above the top of the board.
I guessed that, but on the TWOG/Tiny pages the side with the plugs is
referred to as the bottom. Makes sense for the Tiny, I assume the
Aprin has up-side/down-side, but I don't know what they are (yet).
> I am not sure how to make an annotation that would be clearer then this. ;)
> Ideas are welcome! :D
maybe:
* picture from the side, labelled signal / SV / GND.
* annotation: "top" servo pins are furthest from board
Chris Gough
From: Piotr Esden-Tempski
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa/M CheatSheet
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:37:57 -0700
Yeah, Aspirin is mounted on the "back" of Lisa/M. So it is up-side-down. I did
not know that TWOG is referred to in an up-side orientation. :)
I agree there needs to be some kind of a reference telling what the reference
frame is. The pictures are annotated top view and bottom view in the wiki.
Maybe adding these annotations into the cheat sheet would help understanding
it. I am not sure if adding another picture is the right way to do it because
that requires additional space on the cheat sheet that is supposed to be small…
Cheers Esden
On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Chris Gough wrote:
>> I thought it is clear as you are looking in the picture at the top of the
>> board…
>> so top pins are the ones highest above the top of the board.
>
> I guessed that, but on the TWOG/Tiny pages the side with the plugs is
> referred to as the bottom. Makes sense for the Tiny, I assume the
> Aprin has up-side/down-side, but I don't know what they are (yet).
>
>> I am not sure how to make an annotation that would be clearer then this. ;)
>> Ideas are welcome! :D
>
> maybe:
> * picture from the side, labelled signal / SV / GND.
> * annotation: "top" servo pins are furthest from board
From: Chris Gough
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa/M CheatSheet
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:25:18 +1000
> Yeah, Aspirin is mounted on the "back" of Lisa/M. So it is up-side-down.
> I did not know that TWOG is referred to in an up-side orientation. :)
Sorry, I'm being thick today.
In the wiki the picture of Lisa/M showing the side with plugs is
labeled "top view", and the picture showing the side with Aspirin is
labelled "bottom view". To me this implies the Lisa/M should be
mounted with the plugs facing up, and the Aspirin underneath (I
suspect this is wrong though).
http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/LisaM
This is opposite of the Tiny/TWOG pages, where the side with plugs is
labelled "bottom view" e.g.
http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Tiny_v2.11#Features
It's kind of obvious from context that a Tiny is mounted with the GPS
antenna facing the sky, so calling the other side "bottom view"
doesn't make my head hurt.
> Maybe adding these annotations into the cheat sheet would help understanding
> it.
...
> I am not sure if adding another picture is the right way to do it because
> that requires
> additional space on the cheat sheet that is supposed to be small…
You're right, extra picture is overkill for a cheat sheet. Perhaps the
annotation "mount with Aspirin on top, servo plugs facing the back"
(or bottom/front, whatever is correct...)
Chris Gough
> Cheers Esden
>
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Chris Gough wrote:
>
>>> I thought it is clear as you are looking in the picture at the top of the
>>> board…
>>> so top pins are the ones highest above the top of the board.
>>
>> I guessed that, but on the TWOG/Tiny pages the side with the plugs is
>> referred to as the bottom. Makes sense for the Tiny, I assume the
>> Aprin has up-side/down-side, but I don't know what they are (yet).
>>
>>> I am not sure how to make an annotation that would be clearer then this. ;)
>>> Ideas are welcome! :D
>>
>> maybe:
>> * picture from the side, labelled signal / SV / GND.
>> * annotation: "top" servo pins are furthest from board
>
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From: Simon Goodwin
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Lisa/M CheatSheet
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:21:25 +0200
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Hi,
im not sure if there is any open source/unix program to use omnigraffle
files. But neathetheless we could start a doc/hardware/LisaM dir and
store them there. Thats where, if no other input is given, I would put
the cheat sheets scribus file. (It is linking in the pics, so it would
be need to have them there too.)
I changed top to near and bottom to far. That should make it clear without
needing to define top or bottom.
Cheers
Simon
Am 22.07.2011 02:06, schrieb Piotr Esden-Tempski:
Hey,
Awesome cheat sheet! :) Do you want the original omnigraffle files? :)
Simon: that is my fault. I thought it is clear as you are looking in the
picture at the top of the board… so top pins are the ones highest above the top
of the board. I am not sure how to make an annotation that would be clearer
then this. ;) Ideas are welcome! :D
Cheers Esden
On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Chris Gough wrote:
Hi Simon,
for the servo plugs, it's not clear if "top" or "bottom" is closest to
the board. Which way is up?
Chris Gough
2011/7/18 Simon Goodwin:
Dear Paparazzians,
find attached "Lisa/M CheatSheet" which I compiled while getting warm with
this nice little board.
I would like to ask you to fill in the voids or correct errors so I can
finish it off and make it available.
Where would be the place to put something like this?
The Lisa/M page on the Wiki?
The doc dir in the repo?
The downloads page on the wiki?
Maybe create a new Page for CheatSheets?
Cheers
Simon
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