Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!ms!actai From: ac...@cs.wm.edu (alan c. tai) Subject: Emacs for the Mac? Message-ID: <1993May20.170443.20955@cs.wm.edu> Sender: n...@cs.wm.edu (News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: ms.cs.wm.edu Organization: College of William & Mary, founded 1693 Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 17:04:43 GMT Lines: 6 Does anyone know if there exists a shareware or freeware version of Emacs for the Macintosh? And if so, where can it be FTP'd? Please reply via e-mail. I will summarize to the newsgroup in a week. Thanks. Alan Tai act...@mail.wm.edu or ac...@cs.wm.edu
Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu! magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!gnu.ai.mit.edu!rms From: r...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for the Mac? Date: 20 May 1993 14:38:29 -0400 Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-em...@prep.ai.mit.edu Lines: 30 Sender: dae...@cis.ohio-state.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <9305201834.AA03547@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> References: <1993May20.170443.20955@cs.wm.edu> The FSF does not support Emacs (or anything) on the Macintosh. This is because of Apple's look and feel lawsuit. Apple is trying to clamp a monopoly on developing window systems. This threatens the freedom of all programmers. For this reason the League for Programming Freedom suggests programmers not develop software for Apple machines, or port software to Apple machines. This includes free software, commercial software, whatever. Developing software for Apple machines gives Apple crucial help, and it is self-defeating to help an active and threatening enemy. (The League for Programming Freedom is not affiliated with the GNU project and does not advocate free software. It is an organization which aims to protect programmers' freedom to write programs. I helped to found it, but I am not in charge of it. For more info, contact l...@uunet.uu.net.) If you care about your freedom to write software, it makes sense for you to take that advice. By simply *not doing* certain work, and doing something else instead, you can avoid feeding the lawyers that bite you. (Last summer, rumors started that Apple had lost the lawsuit. Unfortunately, this was an exaggeration. The rumors have a kernel of truth: a ruling on certain issues went mostly against Apple. It is possible, but not certain, that this will lead to Apple's eventual defeat--if it is not overturned on appeal. No one knows what the final outcome will be.)
Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net! usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu! gnu.ai.mit.edu!rms From: r...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for the Mac? Date: 21 May 1993 17:34:51 -0400 Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-em...@prep.ai.mit.edu Lines: 2 Sender: dae...@cis.ohio-state.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <9305212132.AA09376@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> References: <JROBBINS.93May21115054@kingston.cs.ucla.edu> Please don't use our mailing lists to post information to facilitate use of Macintoshes.
Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net! usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu! gnu.ai.mit.edu!rms From: r...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for the Mac? Date: 25 May 1993 15:53:23 -0400 Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-em...@prep.ai.mit.edu Lines: 15 Sender: dae...@cis.ohio-state.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <9305251948.AA22264@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> References: <7562@pdxgate.UUCP> The FSF set up the newsgroups gnu.* as part of the GNU project. They are repeaters for our mailing lists, and the same policies apply to them as apply to the mailing lists. All I'll say about the content of your message is that wrongdoers often try to excuse themselves by arguing we should not hold them responsible for their own actions. To say that everyone in the world must be blamed equally much or little is to ignore the capacity of people, including the officers of corporations, to have a conscience and act on it. For those who want people to cultivate their consciences, such a position is self-defeating. You don't have to agree with our policy. If you wish to argue against it, please use the proper newsgroup/mailing list, *not* gnu.emacs.help. The proper group is gnu.misc.discuss.