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From: ke...@pixel.Stanford.EDU (Kekoa Proudfoot)
Subject: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/25
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Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
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Just wondering.

Also, who out there is planning to hack the interface?

-Kekoa

From: Larry Pieniazek <l...@voyager.net>
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/25
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Kekoa Proudfoot wrote:
> 
> Just wondering.

I think lu did... see the "consumer Affairs Accolades" thread. Lu got
lucky, Karen's one of the best/funnest S@H reps.

> Also, who out there is planning to hack the interface?

Ask on the Lego-Robotics mailing list... The address is:

lego-r...@crynwr.com

and I suspect a message with subject HELP and a single line HELP will
get you what you need to know. (actually just saying SUBSCRIBE should do
it in one shot)

I recall back in March it was claimed that the codes were already known
and would be released once MS(1) went public

1 - Hmm, maybe I'll like using the initials MS to refer to something
again!

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From: Larry Pieniazek <l...@voyager.net>
Subject: Subscribing to lego-robotics (was Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/25
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Um, whoops. Ignore that last post!

Here is the real scoop from the robot:

I can handle administrative requests automatically.
Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:

   <lego-roboti...@crynwr.com>:
   Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.

   <lego-robotic...@crynwr.com>:
   Stop receiving messages.

   <lego-roboti...@crynwr.com>:
   Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.

DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.


-- 
Larry Pieniazek    http://my.voyager.net/lar
I prefer email at my CTP email address. It works fine.
Remove the spamblock text to use it. Physical mail
should go to my home address, not Auburn Hills. That
project is over. Email me for details if you need to.

From: db...@voicenet.com (Dan Bair)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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Got mine  today, Tuesday.  Ordered yesterday.

Dan Bair

ke...@pixel.Stanford.EDU (Kekoa Proudfoot) wrote:

>Just wondering.
>
>Also, who out there is planning to hack the interface?
>
>-Kekoa
>

From: ke...@pixel.Stanford.EDU (Kekoa Proudfoot)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/25
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Dan Bair <db...@voicenet.com> wrote:
> Got mine today, Tuesday.  Ordered yesterday.

Care to post a review, thoughts, etc?  Or are you too busy playing?  (I'd
be.)

-Kekoa

From: lu...@worldnet.att.net (lu)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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kekoa wrote:
>Also, who out there is planning to hack the interface?
And who's ready to unscrew those tempting little black screws inside the
battery box?

From: lu...@worldnet.att.net (lu)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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kekoa wrote:
>Care to post a review, thoughts, etc?  Or are you too busy playing?
Busy, busy. I've only done the hand holding setup tutorial on the CD (no
programming yet). If you don't use Com1 for the IR transmitter as per
instructions, there is an advanced options menu that let's you change this.
Once you set things up right, the sensei lets you know you're a genius. Jeez.
(Well, the voice is a kick.)
The first test model is structurally unsound but heck, it's alive! The other
models seem to be hints, techniques, and ideas only. It's up to you to flesh
them out into something interesting.
The set includes wide assortment of parts from dragon wings to 4 great 81,6 x
15 wheels. Just wish an angle sensor was included.
While you're waiting for your set to arrive, round up a 9v and 6 AA batteries.
Gotta run...

From: ke...@pixel.Stanford.EDU (Kekoa Proudfoot)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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lu <lu...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> While you're waiting for your set to arrive, round up a 9v and 6 AA
> batteries.

Will do, thanks.

The tutorial sounds like a pain.  My Mindstorms is supposed to be here on
Friday, but then I leave on Saturday to go on a trip for a week.  (sigh)

-Kekoa

From: ke...@pixel.Stanford.EDU (Kekoa Proudfoot)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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lu <lu...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> kekoa wrote:
> >Also, who out there is planning to hack the interface?
> And who's ready to unscrew those tempting little black screws inside the
> battery box?

Me me me me me!

-Kekoa

From: db...@voicenet.com (Dan Bair)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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The tutorial is a pain.  It is slow and does not let you jump ahead.
It has a place to register on the Web but it looks as if you have to
get through the entire tutorial before you can log on and register.  

The tutorial seems geared for about a 3rd grader.

Dan Bair



ke...@pixel.Stanford.EDU (Kekoa Proudfoot) wrote:

>The tutorial sounds like a pain.  My Mindstorms is supposed to be here on
>Friday, but then I leave on Saturday to go on a trip for a week.  (sigh)
>
>-Kekoa
>
>

From: db...@voicenet.com (Dan Bair)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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You are right, the first model falls aparts more often then it should.
I think I have rebuilt it 4 times already.

Dan Bair


lu...@worldnet.att.net (lu) wrote:

>The first test model is structurally unsound but heck, it's alive! The other
>models seem to be hints, techniques, and ideas only. It's up to you to flesh
>them out into something interesting.
>The set includes wide assortment of parts from dragon wings to 4 great 81,6 x
>15 wheels. Just wish an angle sensor was included.
>While you're waiting for your set to arrive, round up a 9v and 6 AA batteries.
>Gotta run...

From: fozz...@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/26
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Organization: Napa Valley College
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In article <35e472c3...@netnews.voicenet.com>,
Dan Bair <db...@voicenet.com> wrote:
>The tutorial seems geared for about a 3rd grader.

Seems to me to be more geared towards a 40something that had never
seen or used LEGO or a computer in their life. Some of the basics
about how to put the pieces together were awfully obvious to anyone
that's *ever* used LEGO.

The software that's included was kinda fun for about 20 minutes. But
it's just a pain in the ass to get anywhere in it.

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From: lu...@worldnet.att.net (lu)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/27
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dbair wrote:
>The tutorial seems geared for about a 3rd grader.
Yeah, yawners, but go with the flow. It wasn't written for us 4th graders
(although I loved the head patting stuff). For skippees you can click the fast
forward button or Ctrl-click the About box or just run Probe.exe to skip the
intro graphics.

From: ke...@pixel.Stanford.EDU (Kekoa Proudfoot)
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/28
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lu <lu...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> And who's ready to unscrew those tempting little black screws inside the
> battery box?

Alright.  I opened the case and took some pictures.  See:

http://graphics.stanford.edu/~kekoa/rcx/

-Kekoa

From: Russell Nelson <nel...@crynwr.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone get their Mindstorms yet?
Date: 1998/08/29
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Larry Pieniazek <l...@voyager.net> writes:

> Ask on the Lego-Robotics mailing list... The address is:
> 
> lego-r...@crynwr.com
> 
> and I suspect a message with subject HELP and a single line HELP will
> get you what you need to know. (actually just saying SUBSCRIBE should do
> it in one shot)

Best to just send mail to lego-roboti...@crynwr.com
Can you guess how to unsubscribe?

> I recall back in March it was claimed that the codes were already known
> and would be released once MS(1) went public

I'm expecting a SDK from the LegoMindstorms group before Christmas.

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