Xref: lugnet.com lugnet.general:32858 lugnet.mediawatch: 276 lugnet.robotics.rcx:1399 lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:2038 Newsgroups: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos,lugnet.robotics.rcx,lugnet.general, lugnet.mediawatch Path: lugnet.com!lugnet From: "Ross Crawford" <rcrawford@csi.com> X-Real-Life-Name: Ross Crawford Subject: LegOS forced to use another name? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Followup-To: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: None X-Nntp-Gateway: http://www.lugnet.com/news/post/ Message-ID: <GJF66M.9IF@lugnet.com> X-Member-Id: 469 X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lugnet.com Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:49:34 GMT X-Http-Remote-Addr: 165.228.130.12 Lines: 14 Article here: http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,16981,FF.html says TLC may be talking to Marcus Noga about his use of "LegOS" for the open-source operating system for the Mindstorms RCX (see last page). I can see their point. Personally, I think "NogOS" has a bit of a ring to it 8?) What does everyone else think? ROSCO PS: Not sure I like being referred to as a "hard-core gadget freak" (p4) PPS: follow-ups to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos
Xref: lugnet.com lugnet.robotics.rcx:1401 lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos: 2040 lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth:438 Newsgroups: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos,lugnet.robotics.rcx,lugnet. robotics.rcx.pbforth Path: lugnet.com!lugnet From: "Ralph Hempel" <rhempel@bmts.com> X-Real-Life-Name: Ralph Hempel Subject: RE: LegOS forced to use another name? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: <rhempel@bmts.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: None X-Nntp-Gateway: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos@lugnet.com Message-ID: <CAEBIOGHPFFJALBLJBEDIENGCNAA.rhempel@bmts.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) References: <GJF66M.9IF@lugnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lugnet.com Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 01:12:59 GMT Lines: 35 Ross crawford points to: > http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,16981,FF.html > > says TLC may be talking to Marcus Noga about his use of "LegOS" for the > open-source operating system for the Mindstorms RCX (see last > page). I can see > their point. Personally, I think "NogOS" has a bit of a ring to it 8?) I can see their point too. As long as it's only about the name then I can't see anyone getting too upset. It's just a name, after all. But if it's about the replacement firmware, then I have more to worry about. So do the supporters of leJOS, users of Kekoa's minimal run-time library, and anyone using gcc tools to program their bots. I'm going to sit back for a bit and see what happens. If anyone at TLG is reading this (and I'm sure you are) please contact me via email to confirm or deny the story. I have a major new release of pbForth in the pipes, but now I'm worried that any time I spend on it will be fruitless.... Cheers, Ralph Hempel - P.Eng -------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out pbFORTH for LEGO Mindstorms at: <http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/lego/pbForth> Buy "Extreme Mindstorms: an Advanced Guide to Lego Mindstorms" <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1893115844/hempeldesigngrou> -------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to: rhempel at bmts dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------
Xref: lugnet.com lugnet.general:32860 lugnet.mediawatch:277 lugnet.robotics.rcx:1402 lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:2044 Newsgroups: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos,lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.general,lugnet.mediawatch Path: lugnet.com!lugnet From: "Luis Villa" <liv@duke.edu> X-Real-Life-Name: Luis Villa Subject: Re: LegOS forced to use another name? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Followup-To: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: None X-Nntp-Gateway: http://www.lugnet.com/news/post/ Message-ID: <GJF9Fz.HG4@lugnet.com> References: <GJF66M.9IF@lugnet.com> X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-SGI_XFS_1.0 i586; en-US; Galeon) Gecko/20010622 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lugnet.com Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 00:59:59 GMT X-Http-Remote-Addr: 66.31.94.150 Lines: 30 Having registered legOS.sourceforge.net (on Markus's word that TLG had given him permission to use the name), having run the last release of legOS, and having not heard anything from TLG myself, I can say that there are no plans in this corner of the world to change any of the information on legOS.sourceforge.net (including the information in the official 0.2.5 release files) until I've actually heard from TLG. So far, that hasn't happened, so nothing is changing. I'll note, for the record, that TLG has been aware of legOS for 2 1/2 years without having ever publicly complained about it. I guess that's what irritates me about this. They've had plenty of time to complain about this before now. Luis In lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, Ross Crawford writes: >Article here: > >http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,16981,FF.html > >says TLC may be talking to Marcus Noga about his use of "LegOS" for the >open-source operating system for the Mindstorms RCX (see last page). I can see >their point. Personally, I think "NogOS" has a bit of a ring to it 8?) > >What does everyone else think? > >ROSCO > >PS: Not sure I like being referred to as a "hard-core gadget freak" (p4) >PPS: follow-ups to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos
Xref: lugnet.com lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:2049 Newsgroups: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos Path: lugnet.com!lugnet From: "Ross Crawford" <rcrawford@csi.com> X-Real-Life-Name: Ross Crawford Subject: Re: LegOS forced to use another name? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: None X-Nntp-Gateway: http://www.lugnet.com/news/post/ Message-ID: <GJFKJJ.IGp@lugnet.com> X-Member-Id: 469 References: <GJF66M.9IF@lugnet.com> <GJF9Fz.HG4@lugnet.com> X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lugnet.com Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 04:59:42 GMT X-Http-Remote-Addr: 165.228.130.12 Lines: 12 In lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, Luis Villa writes: > >I'll note, for the record, that TLG has been aware of legOS for 2 1/2 >years without having ever publicly complained about it. I guess that's >what irritates me about this. They've had plenty of time to complain >about this before now. Yeah, I saw your post on slashdot after I'd posted the link here. As you say, if they don't defend their trademark within a reasonable time, they lose the right to do so. I guess the best course of action in this case is "no action"!! ROSCO
Xref: lugnet.com lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:2069 Newsgroups: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos Path: lugnet.com!lugnet From: "Markus L. Noga" <markus@noga.de> X-Real-Life-Name: Markus L. Noga Subject: Re: LegOS forced to use another name? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: None X-Nntp-Gateway: http://www.lugnet.com/news/post/ Message-ID: <GJLM3B.Lt4@lugnet.com> References: <GJF66M.9IF@lugnet.com> X-Http-User-Agent: Opera/5.12 (Windows NT 4.0; U) [en] X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lugnet.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:18:47 GMT X-Http-Remote-Addr: 129.13.171.45 Lines: 15 Hello everybody, there has been a lot of discussion about the Business 2.0 article in their forums, on Slashdot and here at LUGNET. I followed all of them closely until Tuesday afternoon, but rather less so in the days since. I also received several personal emails, some of them heated, some of them well-reflected, urging one way or another. All of them were read, and many were replied to. LEGO and I have been in contact since Friday. So far, all sides have been calm and civil about the issue. I am confident that we will shortly reach an agreement that reflects everyone's best interests. Markus.