Subject: init/login and /etc/ttys
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 91 22:19:08 PST
From: pmacdona@sol.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

If no one else has volunteered yet, I will take a stab at modifying
init to read /etc/ttys and fork a login for each.  This means of course
writing login.c as well.  If someone else has started this already, 
please stop me now!

Subject: init/login and /etc/ttys
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1991 14:14:32 +0200
From: Ari Lemmke <arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

>If no one else has volunteered yet, I will take a stab at modifying
>init to read /etc/ttys and fork a login for each.  This means of course
>writing login.c as well.  If someone else has started this already, 
>please stop me now!

	I have started init/getty/login stuff ;-) mainly based on
	bsd-reno stuff.

	arl

	BTW

>		(NO, NO MORE nic.funet.fi unreachable STUFF, I CANT
>		BEAR IT)

		*FLAME ON*

		I TOLD EARLIER THAT NIC.FUNET.FI IS HAVING
		REORGANIZATIONS .. WHY DO YOU STILL CRY ? ;-)

		*FLAME OFF*

		nic.funet.fi is _absolutely_ the best FTP site.
		Problems _are_ going to be corrected.

		nic FTP file areas:

Filesystem            kbytes    used   avail capacity  Mounted on
/dev/rs4c            1015790  693649  322141    68%    /ftp/disk1
/dev/rs2c            1015790  743216  272574    73%    /ftp/disk2
/dev/sd0c            1374491  817095  557396    59%    /ftp/disk3
/dev/rs3c            1009846  872018   36843    96%    /ftp/disk4
/dev/sd2c            1374491 1193968  180523    87%    /ftp/disk5
/dev/sd4e             913596  676080  237516    74%    /ftp/disk6

		so you might guess how big/huge 'job' is
		reorganization.

		arl

Subject: shoelace and init
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 91 19:45:08 PST
From: pmacdona@sol.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

I too noticed that shoelace has code to do fsck and mkfs functions.
But fsck doesn't seem to work on my hard drive.  I am also trying to
get it to load Linux as this would allow passing environment variables
such as video mode.  Also nice to boot from multiple partitions.


To Ari Lemmke:  If you need it, and haven't already considered it,
maybe fvk-crypt and getty as posted on plains can be used by init/
login/getty.  Let me know if you wish to farm out anything like
ttys or ttytype.

Subject: updated nic.funet.fi
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1991 06:30:07 +0200
From: Ari Lemmke < arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
To: Linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi


	nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux

	Check README and ls-laR files! These constantly change ..

	lib contain new *.s (sig_restore.s and crt0.s) files,
	without those would be hard to create sw to Linux.

	bin has some new useful utilities, like kermit.

	I hope I can get init/getty/login system out within week or
	two. Earlier if there is a need for a really poor one ;-)

	arl

Subject: Is anyone working on pseudo ttys
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 91 10:49:00 PST
From: pmacdona@sol.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

Please let me know if someone is working on ptys.
pmacdona@sol.uvic.ca
Peter.MacDonald@bcsystems.gov.bc.ca

Subject: man pages and ptys
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 91 19:19:01 PST
From: pmacdona@sol.UVic.CA (Peter MacDonald)
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi

I have put together some man pages for some the GNU utilities together 
with a PD version of man.  Ted was kind enough to put it on tsx-11.mit.edu
for any interested party.  

Also, Matthias Lautner has provided me with the source to his minix
ptys and select patch to Minix.  It still has a bug with losing 
messages from tty to FS.  But I am looking at how hard it is
to port his design to Linux.

Subject: Linux 0.11 is hard to die !
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
Date: 17 Dec 91 00:14:28 MET (Tue)
From: zaphod@petruz.sublink.org (Pietro Caselli)

Yeaaaah ... just like a ninja Linux 0.11 refuses to die. When I logout
from bash I login into bash again, and again, and ... quosque tandem Linuxe !

I like tenacity, but ... there is a limit !!! :-)

Hmmm ... I passed from gremlins to ninja, with Linux 0.12 I hope not to
deal with Godzilla :-)

Happy hacking to everyone ... and Merry Christmas.

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Subject: Linux 0.11 is hard to die !
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1991 16:46:33 +0200
From: Ari Lemmke <arl@zen.cs.hut.fi>
To: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
In-Reply-To: Pietro Caselli's message of 17 Dec 91 00:14:28 MET (Tue) 
<9112170014.AA00046@petruz.sublink.ORG>


>Yeaaaah ... just like a ninja Linux 0.11 refuses to die. When I logout
>from bash I login into bash again, and again, and ... quosque tandem Linuxe !

	That's because kernel init has while loop like (hey, that's
	pseudo-code, not the real one!):

		while (1)
		{
			exec("/bin/sh");
			sync();
		}

	So actually that was, what I did for 0.10 '/etc/init',
	because atleast my shell is (maybe with 0.11 was) constantly
	crashing.

	So it is safe to power off after first logout.

	arl