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From: cmetz@thor.tjhsst.edu (Craig Metz)
Subject: X11 - what's the proverbial "Latest", and what to do...
Reply-To: cmetz@thor.tjhsst.edu (Craig Metz)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:31:04 GMT


        Ok, well I have run on my machine before (incessant flamers,
skip here - I have an ET4000 board and I've run it before) through
all the versions released to the public of the "Linux X11". Now, my
problme is that I want a reasonably fast server (ie, XFree86 - the
ET4000 speedups and such will really impact performance in a positive
way for my system!). I guess things can be summed up in two questions:

        1. What's the timetable for "Linux X11" 2.0? 

                - Last I heard was a chicken and egg problem between X11
                  and GCC...

        2. If "Linux X11" 2.0 isn't coming too soon, what do I need to
                build an XFree86 server that is Linux-aware (what is
                needed patch-wise to do such things as handling VCs in
                the "right" way and restoring video mode, all that...).

                - I've seen one X3861.2E server binary out on sunsite,
                  and it looks like it will work, but there's a big
                  difference in my book between working and working
                  CORRECTLY (handling Linux-isms right). 

        Any helps would be appreciated, preferably in mail unless it
would be of benefit to the world. The S/N ratio around here is enough
to make me stop reading the group. And no, for the "xjxtirn handles all
that for you" crowd, I can't do killfiles - reading e digests here.

                                                        -Craig

=========================================================================
The Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
Where nothing works, nothing is up, and everything is late.

From: obz@sisd.kodak.com (Orest Zborowski COMP)
Subject: Re: X11 - what's the proverbial "Latest", and what to do...
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:22:19 GMT

Craig Metz (cmetz@thor.tjhsst.edu) wrote:
>
>       Ok, well I have run on my machine before (incessant flamers,
>skip here - I have an ET4000 board and I've run it before) through
>all the versions released to the public of the "Linux X11". Now, my
>problme is that I want a reasonably fast server (ie, XFree86 - the
>ET4000 speedups and such will really impact performance in a positive
>way for my system!). I guess things can be summed up in two questions:
>
>       1. What's the timetable for "Linux X11" 2.0? 

i hope to have it released by the end of the month, but it may be sooner.

>
>               - Last I heard was a chicken and egg problem between X11
>                 and GCC...

not really true. i needed the newest gcc changes from hlu to get any sort
of x11 shared libs working. with his latest set, i have a running version
of x386 1.2e 1.0.2 (yes, note the name).

>
>       2. If "Linux X11" 2.0 isn't coming too soon, what do I need to
>               build an XFree86 server that is Linux-aware (what is
>               needed patch-wise to do such things as handling VCs in
>               the "right" way and restoring video mode, all that...).
>
>               - I've seen one X3861.2E server binary out on sunsite,
>                 and it looks like it will work, but there's a big
>                 difference in my book between working and working
>                 CORRECTLY (handling Linux-isms right). 

last night i finished upgrading my 1.2e to xfree86 1.0X, with the intention
of incorporating the linux defines into the next release of xfree86 (so
everyone can compile their own :-). no really, they are much better at
tracking the mit changes than i am, and with hlu feeling better about
the jump tables, and the kernel stabilizing, things are ripe to be
included in xfree86.

there are many neat things in xfree86, like a mono driver which works on
any kind of vga, linkable servers, speedo and type1 fonts, etc. i have
also included everything but the kitchen sink for server additions (all
except pex - i need a 1gb drive for that!). i have also compiled it with
true tcp connections (yes, you'll be able to run it without).

hopefully this weekend i can pack things up, and then i'm gonna go into
a tiny alpha, to make sure the tcp stuff works, ati cards, etc. this is
to avoid a x11v2.1 right away. hence the release by month end.

after that, we should be in step with xfree86, which is *a good thing*.

>
>       Any helps would be appreciated, preferably in mail unless it
>would be of benefit to the world. The S/N ratio around here is enough
>to make me stop reading the group. And no, for the "xjxtirn handles all
>that for you" crowd, I can't do killfiles - reading e digests here.
>
>                                                       -Craig
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>The Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology
>Where nothing works, nothing is up, and everything is late.

p.s. if you are interested in playing with the server, keep tabs on the
x11 mailing list and i'll tell people when its available. btw - don't
bother doinng too much development work with x11v1.1 - xfree86 (and x11v2.0)
is much different (should be easier to work with).

zorst
[obz@raster.Kodak.COM]
-- 
zorst (orest zborowski)
[obz@raster.Kodak.COM]

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