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From: h...@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Porting Linux to the Amiga
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 18:42:12 GMT
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There has been some talk as of late in comp.os.linux about porting
this wonderful, free Unix clone to the Amiga.  

I decided to post here to drum up a bit more enthusiasm about this
project.  A mailing list will probably start soon for those who wish
to participate (or spectate).

One question that has yet to be answered is how to compile the kernel
(once it has been vastly re-written, of course).  Would the current
AmigaDOS port of GCC be able to generate a loadable kernel?  GCC is
what is currently used under Linux (it's up to version 2.2.2d7).

There's only about a meg of source code to the kernel and it's about
95% C code, so this is not an impossible goal to reach.  However, not
to mislead anybody, a lot of 386-specific and PC-architecture-specific
things would have to be changed for the Amiga version.

The system is very close to the POSIX.1 standard, so most of the
system programs and apps should compile rather painlessly once the
kernel is running.  Of course, GCC running under Amiga-Linux would be
helpful. ;)

Those of you in the unique position of owning a 386-or-better PC and
an MMU-equipped Amiga (such as myself) are probably well-suited to
this project, but I don't want to discourage anyone from
participating.  Of course, if you don't have an Amiga with an MMU, it
is unlikely that you will be able to run Linux, unless of course
someone builds a version without VM and MP (Oh no! ;) ).

If you're interested in such a project, email me and I'll let you know
if/when the mailing list gets going.  Public discussion about this is
not discouraged here, though.
-- 
-----------------Greg-Harp----------------h...@netcom.com------------------
       "Wide mouths with narrow minds can't accept your difference.
     Open season on new ideas -- they call it bad influence." -- B52s

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From: wi...@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Porting Linux to the Amiga
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In article <aw8n=yh.h...@netcom.com>, h...@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
|> There has been some talk as of late in comp.os.linux about porting
|> this wonderful, free Unix clone to the Amiga.  

Not to put a damper on things, but isn't Matt Dillon already working on 
porting a version of BSD Unix to the Amiga?  It seems that one Unix is
enough (more than enough for me :-).  Are there really cool additions
to the OS that exist in Linux that don't exist in BSD?

-- 
Robert

There is evidence that the brain is like a computer.  If that's true, 
then there really aren't any stupid people.  Just people running DOS.

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From: st...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
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Subject: Re: Porting Linux to the Amiga
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wi...@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille) writes:

>Not to put a damper on things, but isn't Matt Dillon already working on 
>porting a version of BSD Unix to the Amiga?  

Short answer: No.

Long answer: BSD will probably never be ported to the Amiga.

Stratocaster
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From: wi...@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille)
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Subject: Re: Porting Linux to the Amiga
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In article <19qqhcINN...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, st...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis) 
writes:
|> wi...@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille) writes:
|> 
|> >Not to put a damper on things, but isn't Matt Dillon already working on 
|> >porting a version of BSD Unix to the Amiga?  
|> 
|> Short answer: No.
|> 
|> Long answer: BSD will probably never be ported to the Amiga.
|> 

Disregard my previous comment, then.  Porting Linux to the Amiga would
definitely be a great idea.  Especially if you could get Linux to use
the same file system (obviously not using AmigaDOS, but if Linux could
use AmigaDOS disks, it would be great).

-- 
Robert

There is evidence that the brain is like a computer.  If that's true, 
then there really aren't any stupid people.  Just people running DOS.

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From: h...@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Porting Linux to the Amiga
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wi...@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille) writes:

>Disregard my previous comment, then.  Porting Linux to the Amiga would
>definitely be a great idea.  Especially if you could get Linux to use
>the same file system (obviously not using AmigaDOS, but if Linux could
>use AmigaDOS disks, it would be great).

AmigaDOS filesystem support should be possible, at least.  Linux
currently supports the Minix filesystem, the "extfs" (a filesystem
whose main raison d'etre is to allow long filenames), and the MSDOS
filesystem.

Feel free to join the mailing list.  In case I didn't post the info
here before (I don't recall doing so) here it is:

To subscribe, send email to linux-activists-requ...@joker.cs.hut.fi.
The following line must appear in the message header or as the first
line of the message body:

	X-Mn-Admin: join 680x0

To get help, just email a message to the above address with "help"
in the body.

Thanks...
  Greg

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-----------------Greg-Harp----------------h...@netcom.com------------------
       "Wide mouths with narrow minds can't accept your difference.
     Open season on new ideas -- they call it bad influence." -- B52s

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From: h...@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Porting Linux to the Amiga
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wi...@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille) writes:

>Not to put a damper on things, but isn't Matt Dillon already working on 
>porting a version of BSD Unix to the Amiga?  It seems that one Unix is
>enough (more than enough for me :-).  Are there really cool additions
>to the OS that exist in Linux that don't exist in BSD?

Well, Linux could be described as a SysVr3.2 system with POSIX.1
compatibility.  Matt's BSD4.4 port is, well, BSD.  They're different
flavors of Unix.

Linux also has quite a few interesting features (check out
comp.os.linux if you want to know) and a hell of a lot of grassroots
support.

Anyway, for those who are interested I have created a 680x0 channel on
the Linux mailing list for discussion of the port.  Please join in.

To subscribe, send email to linux-activists-requ...@joker.cs.hut.fi.
The following line must appear in the message header or as the first
line of the message body:

	X-Mn-Admin: join 680x0

To get help, just email a message to the above address with "help"
in the body.

Thanks...
  Greg
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-----------------Greg-Harp----------------h...@netcom.com------------------
       "Wide mouths with narrow minds can't accept your difference.
     Open season on new ideas -- they call it bad influence." -- B52s

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