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From: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Readership report..
Summary: sept-92 readership
Message-ID: <1992Oct2.103435.8586@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:34:35 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
Lines: 62

In case somebody doesn't follow news.lists, here are selected parts of
the september-92 readership reports.  In case you want the full report,
it's available in news.list along with some other general news-related
reports. 

Interestingly, comp.os.linux propagation has gone up from just 56% to
71% within the last month.  At the same time, the estimated total number
of readers figures have become smaller by a noticeable amount - but not
just for linux.  There have probably been some changes to the way the
readership is counted.

For those that think linux is an active group: you are right.  We aren't
far behind alt.sex (THE newsgroup when it comes to popularity - although
some other groups do have a bigger audience) in number of articles, and
linux has been in the top 40 in both traffic volume and cost-per-reader
for the last few months. 

As to actual popularity: propagation is still pretty low (80% is normal
for a comp group it seems), but being the 335th most popular group isn't
bad for this kind of specialized group.

		Linus

--- edited list follows ---

This is the full set of data from the USENET readership report for Sep 92.
Explanations of the figures are in a companion posting.

        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
   1 160000  5317   83%   980  1933.6    22%  0.02  11.5%  misc.jobs.offered 
   2 160000  5142   82%  1568  1909.7    40%  0.02  11.1%  misc.forsale 
   3 150000  4788   89%    10   157.9   100%  0.00  10.3%  news.announce.newusers 
   4 120000  3910   68%  2556  6290.4    45%  0.07   8.4%  alt.sex 
...
  20  68000  2241   86%  1120  2335.9    15%  0.06   4.8%  comp.lang.c 
...
  69  44000  1448   85%   945  1622.4    15%  0.06   3.1%  comp.unix.sysv386 
...
 119  36000  1186   76%  1381  3445.7     2%  0.14   2.6%  comp.unix.bsd 
...
 128  35000  1140   85%   534   902.9    11%  0.04   2.5%  comp.unix.ultrix 
...
 262  25000   830   81%    10    11.1    10%  0.00   1.8%  comp.os.misc 
...
 335  22000   733   71%  2392  4082.2     2%  0.26   1.6%  comp.os.linux 
...
 365  21000   705   83%   139   327.0     5%  0.03   1.5%  comp.os.minix 
...
 606  15000   498   76%   688   988.4     0%  0.10   1.1%  comp.os.coherent 
...
 892  10000   345   79%     4     5.5    25%  0.00   0.7%  comp.unix.sysv286 
..
1577   1500    48    9%    24    31.7     0%  0.00   0.1%  houston.eats 

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From: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: USENET Readership report for Oct 92
Summary: edited for c.o.linux
Message-ID: <1992Nov3.125211.20525@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Date: 3 Nov 92 12:52:11 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
Lines: 54

Ok, I don't know if anybody was very interested last month either, but
in case people want to know and don't read the news.lists group, here is
the latest (edited) popularity info.  Additionally, linux once more
showed up in the top-40 lists in both volume and per-reader cost. 

This month yet another milestone was reached: note the "Recent traffic"
fields (both in kilobytes and number of messages): c.o.linux is actually
more active than alt.sex according to newsstat.  c.o.linux was nr 31
in traffic volume in kB - actually the biggest non-binary "technical"
group it would seem. 

		Linus

----------
This is the edited set of data from the USENET readership report for Oct 92.
Explanations of the figures (and the full lists) can be found in 'news.lists'.

        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
   1 190000  5837   90%    10   158.1   100%  0.00  12.1%  news.announce.newusers 
   2 160000  4971   83%  1002  1958.2    17%  0.02  10.3%  misc.jobs.offered 
   3 160000  4965   82%  1666  2087.5    36%  0.02  10.3%  misc.forsale 
   4 130000  4015   68%  1752  4192.5    41%  0.04   8.3%  alt.sex 
   5 120000  3855   84%     6   262.9    67%  0.00   8.0%  news.answers 
...
  20  75000  2331   87%  1294  2465.0    16%  0.05   4.8%  comp.lang.c 
...
  94  41000  1289   84%    90   120.8    30%  0.00   2.7%  comp.unix.misc 
...
 114  39000  1197   77%  1251  2943.9     5%  0.11   2.5%  comp.unix.bsd 
...
 171  33000  1016   86%   593   928.1    13%  0.05   2.1%  comp.unix.ultrix 
...
 256  27000   842   72%  2890  4755.9     4%  0.24   1.7%  comp.os.linux 
...
 279  26000   801   83%   880  1465.3     8%  0.09   1.7%  comp.unix.aix 
...
 297  25000   784   82%    23    35.4     9%  0.00   1.6%  comp.os.misc 
...
 385  22000   690   83%   163  1094.1     3%  0.08   1.4%  comp.os.minix 
...
 543  18000   554   49%     -       -      -     -   1.2%  comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit 
...
 689  15000   478   76%   526   887.8     1%  0.09   1.0%  comp.os.coherent 
...
1640   1600    49   10%    13   137.4     0%  0.02   0.1%  de.newusers 

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From: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Readership report for November 92
Message-ID: <1992Dec4.235221.1927@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1992 23:52:21 GMT
Lines: 65

Ok, I still don't know if anybody wants to know, but I've been doing
these edited reports now the last couple of months, so I'll continue
until somebody yells "enough is enough". 

As usual (by now), c.o.linux was on the top-40 lists both in traffic
volume (nr 24) and per-reader-cost (nr 25).  The S/N ratio may not be
the best in this group (and the flamewars on CDROMs etc were pretty
unnecessary), but it's still impressive for a mostly technical group. 

What follows is a edited version of the full popularity list for Nov 92. 
The full list can be found on news.lists along with the top-40 lists and
a post explaining how the numbers have been calculated. 

We're still playing catch-up to alt.sex (in popularity: we've been
beating it in volume already (*)), but sex has been free since the
sixties (or so they tell me), while linux has been free for only a year
or so.  We'll get there yet,

		Linus "safe linuxing: use backups" Torvalds

(*) Pun? You decide.  Maybe I should get a life. 

-----

        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
   1 180000  5379   90%     1    12.1   100%  0.00  10.9%  news.announce.newusers 
   2 170000  4910   83%  1226  1401.3    28%  0.01  10.0%  misc.forsale 
   3 170000  4862   84%   871  1762.7    20%  0.02   9.9%  misc.jobs.offered 
   4 140000  4235   67%  2014  4176.9    51%  0.04   8.6%  alt.sex 
   5 140000  4096   85%     6   227.6   100%  0.00   8.3%  news.answers 
...
  19  78000  2280   88%  1301  2440.9    14%  0.05   4.6%  comp.lang.c 
  20  77000  2253   85%   830  1538.5    24%  0.03   4.6%  comp.graphics 
...
  80  47000  1364   85%   232   388.4    21%  0.01   2.8%  comp.unix.programmer 
...
 107  42000  1238   85%   135   248.0    33%  0.01   2.5%  comp.unix.misc 
 108  42000  1235   48%   148   217.5    19%  0.00   2.5%  alt.sex.wizards 
 109  42000  1229   79%   485   590.5     9%  0.02   2.5%  comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted 
 110  42000  1228   87%   552  1016.3    23%  0.04   2.5%  comp.unix.sysv386
...
 142  38000  1117   79%   978  2297.8     7%  0.09   2.3%  comp.unix.bsd 
...
 203  32000   940   74%  2733  4776.7     5%  0.21   1.9%  comp.os.linux 
...
 269  29000   837   81%    61    83.2     9%  0.00   1.7%  comp.os.mach 
...
 320  26000   763   83%    23    37.7     0%  0.00   1.5%  comp.os.misc 
...
 465  22000   639   84%   131  1387.6     5%  0.10   1.3%  comp.os.minix 
...
 709  16000   478   78%   441   872.6     3%  0.08   1.0%  comp.os.coherent 
...
1025  11000   327   59%   711  1163.3     1%  0.12   0.7%  alt.fan.warlord 
...
1670   1700    50   10%    43    73.6     2%  0.01   0.1%  de.soc.studium 

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
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From: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Jan93 Readership Report
Message-ID: <1993Feb9.224104.20519@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 22:41:04 GMT
Lines: 83

Forgot to do this last month, but here are the figures from the January
1993 network statistics on newsgroups.  c.o.l showed up as nr 161 on the
popularity lists: approximately 42000 people reportedly read it. 
c.o.l.announce is number 504 with a readership of 24000 - the main
problem seems to be limited propagation (53%) right now. 

Linux was also on the top 40 lists in both traffic volume (21st) and
per-reader-cost (40th) - something I wouldn't mind if it would change. 
The S/N ratio has gone steadily down, most irritatingly due to people
flaming each other over asking FAQ's and/or general bandwidth wasting or
due to non-linux inflamed threads concerning Diamond video cards or
similar. 

I've also had a few mails complaining about unhelpful responses to
posts: I think the linux community is generally helpful, but a few
non-friendly posts can give a bad picture of the people reading this
group.  If you feel like flaming a newbie for posting a FAQ - don't:
it's usually better to politely answer it and point out that the FAQ
does contain the answer, or simply ignore it (ignoring it also saves
valuable time that can better be used to read alt.tasteless or *shudder*
for real life). 

		Linus

-----
This is a partial set of data from the USENET readership report for Jan 93. 
Explanations of the figures (and full data) can be found in news.lists. 

        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
   1 220000  5781   91%    16   244.2   100%  0.00  12.1%  news.announce.newusers 
   2 140000  3863   68%  2267  5182.5    32%  0.05   8.1%  alt.sex 
   3 140000  3779   87%     4   199.5    75%  0.00   7.9%  news.answers 
   4 140000  3766   85%  1183  2413.4    17%  0.03   7.9%  misc.jobs.offered 
   5 140000  3704   84%    79   149.7     0%  0.00   7.7%  rec.humor.funny
...
   9 110000  3068   89%   983  1773.1    12%  0.03   6.4%  comp.windows.x 
...
  13  94000  2507   89%  1225  2229.2    22%  0.04   5.2%  comp.lang.c 
...
  21  80000  2125   89%   866  1482.7    14%  0.03   4.4%  comp.unix.questions 
...
 101  48000  1295   86%   245   399.7    34%  0.01   2.7%  comp.unix.programmer 
...
 116  47000  1248   86%   157   218.3    20%  0.01   2.6%  comp.unix.misc 
...
 123  46000  1231   81%  1088  3085.5    10%  0.10   2.6%  comp.unix.bsd 
...
 161  42000  1112   77%  3606  5948.9     2%  0.20   2.3%  comp.os.linux 
...
 217  36000   971   82%    63   107.5    17%  0.00   2.0%  comp.os.mach 
...
 328  30000   790   83%    35    82.7     6%  0.00   1.7%  comp.std.unix 
...
 339  29000   781   71%    16    26.0    27%  0.00   1.6%  comp.unix.sys5.r4 
...
 346  29000   775   72%   495  1017.9    65%  0.05   1.6%  comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit 
...
 395  27000   717   85%   271  1102.5     1%  0.06   1.5%  comp.os.minix 
...
 504  24000   635   53%   102   551.2    34%  0.02   1.3%  comp.os.linux.announce 
...
 513  23000   625   76%   212   457.7     9%  0.03   1.3%  gnu.gcc.help 
...
 565  22000   580   80%   553  1962.6     6%  0.13   1.2%  comp.os.coherent 
...
 620  20000   540   76%   181  1040.1     1%  0.07   1.1%  gnu.gcc.bug 
...
 710  19000   498   54%   203   400.7    13%  0.02   1.0%  comp.windows.x.i386unix 
...
1163  10000   274   43%    17    20.9    25%  0.00   0.6%  alt.os.linux 
...
1299   8500   228   30%     2     1.9    50%  0.00   0.5%  comp.unix.i386 
...
1876   1800    48   11%    16    22.3     0%  0.00   0.1%  de.comm.uucp 

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
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From: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: USENET Readership report for Feb 93
Message-ID: <1993Mar11.120212.25547@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 12:02:12 GMT
Lines: 78

Ok, I have been doing this for some time, nobody has complained, and
comp.os.linux has steadily climbed upwards on the lists, so I'll just
continue..  When people start complaining or c.o.l starts declining,
I'll just quietly forget about this "service" :^)

First for a couple of insightful comments (remember: you heard it here
first): judging by the figures, the recession is back.  Once more
misc.jobs.offered is more popular than alt.sex - a sure way to spot a
recession.  Don't panic, but sell all your Wall Street bonds quietly. 

As to linux - comp.os.linux now has approximately 45000 readers, which
makes it the 146th most popular group.  comp.os.linux.announce has only
28000 readers, probably due to the rather low propagation: 60% vs 78%
for c.o.l, and is nr 418 on the lists.  Also, c.o.l was still on the
top-40 list when it comes to traffic volume, although it has now fallen
from the per-reader-cost lists. 

		Linus

PS.  I heard today that I had been nominated for the EFF (Electronic
Frontier Foundation) Pioneer award.  While I didn't get it (bummer), I
appreciate the thought of whoever nominated me.  Thanks. 

-----
This is a partial set of data from the USENET readership report for Feb 93.
The full data and explanations of the figures can be found in news.lists

        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
   1 190000  5015   91%     1    14.2   100%  0.00  10.7%  news.announce.newusers 
   2 150000  3936   87%    11   436.9   100%  0.00   8.4%  news.answers 
   3 150000  3834   85%  1120  2385.6    19%  0.02   8.2%  misc.jobs.offered 
   4 140000  3765   68%  1593  4128.3    18%  0.04   8.0%  alt.sex 
   5 140000  3661   83%    71   136.7     1%  0.00   7.8%  rec.humor.funny 
...
 138  46000  1195   81%   930  1982.5     7%  0.06   2.5%  comp.unix.bsd 
...
 146  45000  1169   78%  3098  5246.7     4%  0.16   2.5%  comp.os.linux 
...
 181  40000  1059   85%   368   638.0    11%  0.02   2.3%  comp.unix.ultrix 
...
 215  38000   996   81%    43   113.1     7%  0.00   2.1%  comp.os.mach 
...
 237  36000   944   85%   849  1969.9     5%  0.08   2.0%  comp.unix.aix 
...
 302  32000   845   82%    24    31.8     9%  0.00   1.8%  comp.os.misc 
...
 333  31000   811   73%   324   664.8    51%  0.03   1.7%  comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit 
...
 411  28000   730   83%   192   396.3     2%  0.02   1.6%  comp.os.minix 
...
 418  28000   728   60%   100   572.5    15%  0.02   1.5%  comp.os.linux.announce 
...
 554  23000   610   79%   387   715.9     2%  0.04   1.3%  comp.os.coherent 
...
 658  21000   540   60%   238   422.0     7%  0.02   1.1%  comp.windows.x.i386unix 
...
1292   9300   243   40%     2     2.5    50%  0.00   0.5%  alt.os.linux 
...
1522   6400   168   30%    47    56.6     9%  0.00   0.4%  alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions 
...
1539   6300   164   20%   281   537.0     5%  0.03   0.3%  comp.os.386bsd.questions 
...
1578   5800   153   19%    12    71.5     0%  0.00   0.3%  comp.os.386bsd.apps 
...
1613   5500   144   19%    65   157.3     3%  0.01   0.3%  comp.os.386bsd.development 
...
1641   5100   134   20%    33    56.2     3%  0.00   0.3%  comp.os.386bsd.misc 
...
1665   4700   124   19%    48   104.0    22%  0.01   0.3%  comp.os.386bsd.bugs 

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From: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: USENET Readership report for Mar 93
Message-ID: <1993Apr10.095411.15996@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Summary: partial data for Mar93
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1993 09:54:11 GMT
Lines: 96

Following is a short excerpt from the readership report for March-93:
you can find the full data (as well as some explanations on how the
numbers are calculated) on news.lists.  I've been doing this for some
time and nobody has complained, so here goes again.. 

Volume: c.o.linux is still on the TOP-40 list in traffic volume - indeed
c.o.l has reached nr 13 on the list with more than 7MB of messages the
last month (averaging about 150 messages/day if the statistics are
correct).  Groups that see more volume are mostly picture groups
(notably alt.binaries.pictures.erotica at 16MB) or various discussion
groups like talk.abortion and the like. 

Popularity: c.o.linux now has an estimated 52000 readers, which puts it
at nr 152 in the popularity list.  Due to limited propagation (65%),
c.o.l.announce has "only" 39000 readers making it nr 278 in the
statistics.  In fact, c.o.l seems to be one of the most popular unix
groups, although that may not be a fair comparison due to the still
limited propagation of the new 386bsd groups. 

		Linus

----- excerpt follows -----

        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
   1 280000  6721   91%    12   170.2   100%  0.00  12.9%  news.announce.newusers 
   2 250000  5981   83%  2418  2922.0    25%  0.02  11.4%  misc.forsale 
   3 240000  5841   85%  1348  2663.8    21%  0.02  11.2%  misc.jobs.offered 
   4 220000  5188   87%     4   203.3   100%  0.00   9.9%  news.answers 
   5 180000  4335   67%  1492  4118.0    18%  0.03   8.3%  alt.sex 
...
  16 110000  2629   88%  1554  2819.7    16%  0.04   5.0%  comp.lang.c 
...
  32  86000  2054   88%  1088  2074.4    13%  0.04   3.9%  comp.windows.x
...
  64  69000  1648   86%   320   542.2    21%  0.01   3.2%  comp.unix.admin
...
 102  59000  1418   76%    17    49.7    69%  0.00   2.7%  gnu.announce 
...
 152  52000  1242   78%  4735  7577.0     4%  0.21   2.4%  comp.os.linux
...
 172  49000  1170   80%    86   140.3     9%  0.00   2.2%  comp.unix.bsd
...
 224  44000  1057   85%   474   871.3    16%  0.03   2.0%  comp.unix.ultrix 
...
 247  42000  1000   81%    54    86.4     6%  0.00   1.9%  comp.os.mach 
...
 275  40000   949   84%  1037  1852.7     6%  0.07   1.8%  comp.unix.aix 
...
 278  39000   942   65%   141   496.4    10%  0.01   1.8%  comp.os.linux.announce 
...
 291  38000   920   71%   391  1252.1    17%  0.04   1.8%  comp.unix.sys5.r4 
...
 294  38000   916   73%   391   734.2    27%  0.03   1.8%  comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit 
...
 316  37000   890   82%    49    89.5    20%  0.00   1.7%  comp.os.misc 
...
 460  30000   724   68%   572  1225.3     7%  0.05   1.4%  comp.unix.solaris 
...
 483  29000   708   83%   148   289.9     3%  0.01   1.4%  comp.os.minix 
...
 513  29000   685   84%   185   363.4     9%  0.02   1.3%  comp.unix.xenix.sco 
...
 547  27000   658   79%   506  1024.8     5%  0.05   1.3%  comp.os.coherent 
...
 609  26000   617   64%   320   563.3    12%  0.03   1.2%  comp.windows.x.i386unix 
...
 702  23000   564   68%    25    33.8     8%  0.00   1.1%  comp.unix.osf.misc 
...
 793  21000   503   69%    65   105.8    52%  0.01   1.0%  comp.unix.sys5.r3 
...
 944  17000   419   47%    55   117.7    10%  0.01   0.8%  comp.os.386bsd.misc 
...
1018  16000   386   45%   301   692.5     5%  0.04   0.7%  comp.os.386bsd.development 
...
1082  15000   358   45%    10    56.7   100%  0.00   0.7%  comp.os.386bsd.announce 
...
1125  14000   338   45%    98   241.7    23%  0.01   0.6%  comp.os.386bsd.apps 
...
1146  14000   329   47%   745  1163.9     5%  0.07   0.6%  comp.os.386bsd.questions 
...
1208  13000   306   45%   385   936.2     2%  0.06   0.6%  comp.os.386bsd.bugs 
...
1401   9800   235   38%    11    15.7     0%  0.00   0.4%  alt.os.linux 
...
1638   6500   157   33%    48    61.6     2%  0.01   0.3%  alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions 
...
1997   2200    53   10%    30    59.4    29%  0.00   0.1%  nj.market.housing 

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From: john...@satalink.com (John Will)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: USENET Readership report
Message-ID: <13993.1189.uupcb@satalink.com>
Date: 10 Apr 93 17:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: john...@satalink.com (John Will)
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TO: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI

LT>Volume: c.o.linux is still on the TOP-40 list in traffic volume - indeed
LT>c.o.l has reached nr 13 on the list with more than 7MB of messages the
LT>last month (averaging about 150 messages/day if the statistics are
LT>correct)...

Quite a monster you're created here... :-)
---
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From: ad...@netcom.com (Adam J. Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: USENET Readership report
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Date: 12 Apr 93 01:49:46 GMT
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In article <13993.11...@satalink.com> john...@satalink.com (John Will) writes:
>LT>Volume: c.o.linux is still on the TOP-40 list in traffic volume - indeed
>LT>c.o.l has reached nr 13 on the list with more than 7MB of messages the
>LT>last month (averaging about 150 messages/day if the statistics are
>LT>correct)...

	According to the March 1993 USENET readership report,
comp.os.linux is now bigger than the largest BSD newsgroup.

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From: torv...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: May 93 USENET Readership Report
Message-ID: <1993Jun2.173513.21315@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 17:35:13 GMT
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More of the readership reports...  I think I missed the April one, but
here's the latest report.  The full data can be found on news.lists
along with some other statistics and the details on how the numbers are
actually estimated. 

New for this month: c.o.l is now actually in the top-100 when it comes
to popularity with an estimated readership of 67000 people.  C.o.l also
showed up on the top-40 list in traffic volume: it's nr 12 to be exact. 
The anatomical picture groups are still ahead, and I doubt anybody will
mind if they stay so.. 

c.o.l.announce squeezed into the top-200 list, having somewhat worse
propagation that c.o.l. 

		Linus

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This is a partial set of data from the USENET readership report for May 93.
Explanations of the figures are in a companion posting on news-groups.

        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
   1 230000  4611   92%     1    13.6   100%  0.00  10.0%  news.announce.newusers 
   2 230000  4447   88%     1    29.2   100%  0.00   9.7%  news.answers 
   3 190000  3729   85%  1473  2931.4    24%  0.02   8.1%  misc.jobs.offered 
   4 190000  3667   67%  2377  5132.2    36%  0.03   8.0%  alt.sex 
   5 170000  3327   83%    67   123.9     0%  0.00   7.2%  rec.humor.funny 
   6 160000  3120   88%   891  1386.1    18%  0.01   6.8%  comp.unix.questions 
  13 130000  2552   88%  1639  2967.6    17%  0.03   5.6%  comp.lang.c 
  29  97000  1908   87%  1018  1975.4    13%  0.03   4.1%  comp.windows.x 
  53  79000  1553   87%   208   397.9    13%  0.01   3.4%  comp.unix.wizards 
  62  76000  1493   77%    37   114.8    94%  0.00   3.2%  gnu.announce 
  66  74000  1443   86%   390   683.4    19%  0.01   3.1%  comp.unix.admin 

  96  67000  1309   80%  4198  6871.7     4%  0.14   2.8%  comp.os.linux 

 103  65000  1282   85%   320   518.3    42%  0.01   2.8%  comp.unix.misc 
 109  64000  1247   85%   362   572.4    12%  0.01   2.7%  comp.unix.programmer 
 184  53000  1036   85%   369   528.0     4%  0.01   2.3%  comp.unix.ultrix 
 199  51000   997   70%    98   514.4    10%  0.01   2.2%  comp.os.linux.announce 
 204  50000   990   78%   185   406.7    20%  0.01   2.2%  comp.windows.x.apps 
 214  49000   967   76%   297   597.8    26%  0.02   2.1%  comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit 
 222  48000   949   74%   274   689.9    20%  0.02   2.1%  comp.unix.sys5.r4 
 223  48000   947   81%    53   190.3    10%  0.01   2.1%  comp.unix.bsd 
 233  47000   930   82%    86   119.2     9%  0.00   2.0%  comp.os.mach 
 250  46000   900   83%    42    72.4     8%  0.00   2.0%  comp.unix.internals 
 268  44000   867   84%  1215  2165.3     7%  0.07   1.9%  comp.unix.aix 
 289  43000   841   82%    22    32.3    19%  0.00   1.8%  comp.os.misc 
 290  43000   839   77%    17    58.1     0%  0.00   1.8%  comp.windows.x.announce 
 331  40000   794   78%   264   435.5    35%  0.01   1.7%  gnu.misc.discuss 
 374  38000   742   72%   598   943.2     9%  0.03   1.6%  comp.unix.solaris 
 382  38000   737   81%    84   312.4     0%  0.01   1.6%  comp.os.research 
 413  36000   709   74%     3     4.5    33%  0.00   1.5%  gnu.gcc.announce 
 424  36000   701   83%   163   589.4     3%  0.02   1.5%  comp.os.minix 
 522  32000   620   76%   245   402.1     3%  0.02   1.3%  gnu.gcc.help 
 547  31000   601   83%   116   157.4    13%  0.01   1.3%  comp.unix.xenix.sco 
 559  30000   594   79%   307   614.8     1%  0.03   1.3%  comp.os.coherent 
 560  30000   593   69%   411   694.4     9%  0.03   1.3%  comp.windows.x.i386unix 
 666  27000   537   75%   266   799.0     2%  0.04   1.2%  gnu.gcc.bug 
 725  26000   504   82%     8     7.5    50%  0.00   1.1%  comp.unix.xenix.misc 
 752  25000   493   70%     5     6.1    40%  0.00   1.1%  comp.unix.sys5.misc 
 760  25000   489   72%    84   135.8    38%  0.01   1.1%  comp.unix.sys5.r3 
 787  24000   477   63%   121   211.1     5%  0.01   1.0%  comp.os.386bsd.misc 
 839  23000   454   60%    16   142.9    87%  0.01   1.0%  comp.os.386bsd.announce 
 867  22000   435   63%   133   250.8    14%  0.01   0.9%  comp.os.386bsd.development 
 906  21000   414   64%   627  1086.6     4%  0.06   0.9%  comp.os.386bsd.questions 
 943  20000   393   62%    41    68.6    13%  0.00   0.9%  comp.os.386bsd.apps 
 993  19000   372   79%     7    12.6     0%  0.00   0.8%  comp.os.xinu 
1009  19000   364   63%   166   518.7     9%  0.03   0.8%  comp.os.386bsd.bugs 
1345  13000   250   38%    54    74.8    35%  0.00   0.5%  alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions 
2006   3500    68   13%   141   212.6    20%  0.01   0.1%  de.comp.os.unix 
2100   2300    46   10%   519  1027.9     6%  0.08   0.1%  de.rec.fahrrad 

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