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From: brac...@accord.ece.cmu.edu (J Eric Bracken)
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Subject: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
Date: 23 Jan 1994 15:15:30 GMT
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I can't seem to find how much disk space Slackware 1.1.1 will take up
when installed.  Does anybody know, or can you point me to a relevant
file?

--Eric Bracken (brac...@accord.ece.cmu.edu)

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From: jmayn...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard)
Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
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In article <2hugmk$...@spitfire.navo.navy.mil>,
Rick Slater <sla...@nrlssc.navy.mil> wrote:
>A minimal installation would probably consist of only the three A disks
>and the four AP disks.  That would occupy fewer than 20 megabytes of
>disk.  If you left the AP disks out, you would need around 10 megs of
>space, but you couldn't do much with what you had. -- Rick

Actually, you can do better than that, if you're careful about what you 
install. I installed pieces of the A, AP, N, and Y packages on my system, and 
have quite a usable system in 15 meg (+about 9 meg of swap partition). The key 
is leaving off some notorious disk hogs...like, for example, Ghostscript.

>P.S.  I'm *very* *very* pleased with the Slackware installation,
>as compared to an SLS installation that I did more than a year ago.
>The Slackware material has all run correctly right "out of the box"
>with only a few tiny glitches.  It's a very professionally organized
>installation system, and is a real asset to the Linux community.

I'm pleased with Slackware 1.1.1 also. After I fixed one install script bug, 
it went in smoothly, even in 2 meg of RAM. No problems in running at all. Now, 
to add more hard disk...
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From: s...@as215-ws-20.ucsc.edu (Scott Derrick)
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Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
Date: 24 Jan 1994 20:01:01 GMT
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In-reply-to: jmaynard@nyx10.cs.du.edu's message of Mon, 24 Jan 94 11:42:39 GMT


   Rick Slater <slater@nrlssc.navy.mil> wrote:
   >A minimal installation would probably consist of only the three A disks
   >and the four AP disks.  That would occupy fewer than 20 megabytes of
   >disk.  If you left the AP disks out, you would need around 10 megs of
   >space, but you couldn't do much with what you had. -- Rick

   Actually, you can do better than that, if you're careful about what you 
   install. I installed pieces of the A, AP, N, and Y packages on my system, and 
   have quite a usable system in 15 meg (+about 9 meg of swap partition). The key 
   is leaving off some notorious disk hogs...like, for example, Ghostscript.


By usable, do you mean you have an editor, wordproccesor, programming
tools, standard unix tools, printing capability, X-windows?  Or do you
mean that you have an operating system?


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From: jmayn...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard)
Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
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In article <SCOT.94Jan24120...@as215-ws-20.ucsc.edu>,
Scott Derrick <s...@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>By usable, do you mean you have an editor,

Yes, but not EMACS (oink!).

> wordproccesor,

I wasn't aware that there _was_ a wordprocessor. (TeX (oink!) doesn't count; 
it's a textual programming language.)

> programming tools,

No, and that's the major omission from your list. I'm going to load GCC 
(oink!) out there, but I don't expect to have a lot of room left.

> standard unix tools,

Yes.

> printing capability,

I think it's in there; if not, it's not too big.

> X-windows?

Oink. I've been using Unixen for years, and only got to a system with X in the 
past month or so.

>  Or do you mean that you have an operating system?

I guess that depends on what you mean by "just an OS." You didn't ask about 
networking (most of which I installed, but I left out pine (oink!)), or games 
(admittedly non-essential; I could scrape them off and save a meg and a half 
or so).

I got Linux to serve as a network communications tool and basic Unix user box. 
It does that just fine for me. It could serve as a programmer's system at the 
cost of a few more megabytes. Unix-class systems can be lean and mean; most of 
the reason it's lost that reputation is that programmers who design software 
to run on systems other people pay for have forgotten how to write tight, fast 
code. Linux itself, and a fair number of the utilities that go with it, are 
happy exceptions.
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From: s...@am.ucsc.edu (Scott Derrick)
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Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
Date: 25 Jan 1994 05:08:26 GMT
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like I thought, just an OS. 

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From: jmayn...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard)
Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
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In article <SCOT.94Jan24210...@am.ucsc.edu>,
Scott Derrick <s...@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote, in its entirety:
>like I thought, just an OS. 

Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse meeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

Just because I find a system usable without the overgrown porkers you seen to 
think are neceessary does not mean that you have any call to feel superior.

You miss the point completely: Linux can be a usable system in a small amount 
of disk. It's not the luxurious environment you seem to feel is absolutely 
necessary in order to get anything done at all, but, then again, YOU DON'T 
KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL POSTER'S REQUIREMENTS ARE!!!! (Or mine, for that 
matter.) Different people have different amounts of system that they need to 
think something is usable. Instead of making elitist comments, I was trying to 
help the guy decide if Linux was for him. My point, which you seem to have 
ignored completely, is that he may well be able to get a system he can use if 
he's careful what he puts on his disk.
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From: f...@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
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Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
Date: 26 Jan 1994 23:28:43 GMT
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In-reply-to: scot@as215-ws-11.ucsc.edu's message of 26 Jan 1994 19:06:57 GMT

Could we just agree that the original question was ambiguous?

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From: jmayn...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard)
Subject: Re: How much disk for Slackware 1.1.1
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In article <FOX.94Jan26182...@graphics.cs.nyu.edu>,
David Fox <f...@graphics.cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
>Could we just agree that the original question was ambiguous?

Absolutely. In fact, that was what led to the discussion: it's obvious that my 
definition of "usable" does not coincide with others'. That's fine; it's why 
there _are_ different distributions, and why the installation process allows 
the user to pick and choose what _he_ thinks is necessary.

My objection is simply to the attitude that, to be considered usable, the 
system needs loads of porcine components. That may be true for some, but 
certainly not for everyone.
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