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Hello:
I saw a thread about iBCS2.  I thought I would get my two cents in.
A few months ago I used the infomagic CD and used linux 1.0.9
to use iBCS2.  I was able to run the old COBOL compiler for SVR3
but couldn't link.  With all the talk about unix belonging to USL
and then to NOVELL and then to whatever, too bad they can't allow
linux to have compatible libraries to link with.
 
I suppose coherent had to pay SCO or ATT to get their libraries.
Is this correct?  Who needs to be payed to get the "rights" to
SCO compatible libraries so that I can do warped things like linking
SCO binaries under linux?
 
Go ahead flame me for asking about something related to linux.
I started with good intentions, intending to relate to the other
incoherent users that yes, you can run the compiler for SCO, but
you can't link.  So go ahead, run wordperfect and other stuff, but
toss your old linker stuff.
 
I just had a warped idea.  Could someone with iBCS2 copy coherent
libraries and link to them under linux?
 
Compiling a systemV/386 COBOL program and linking to coherent libraries.
Warped.  I think I'll pass...
 
 
Chris Mason
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From: fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us (fred smith)
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6848...@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM wrote:
> Hello:
> I saw a thread about iBCS2.  I thought I would get my two cents in.
> A few months ago I used the infomagic CD and used linux 1.0.9
> to use iBCS2.  I was able to run the old COBOL compiler for SVR3
> but couldn't link.  With all the talk about unix belonging to USL
> and then to NOVELL and then to whatever, too bad they can't allow
> linux to have compatible libraries to link with.
>  
> I suppose coherent had to pay SCO or ATT to get their libraries.
> Is this correct?  Who needs to be payed to get the "rights" to
> SCO compatible libraries so that I can do warped things like linking
> SCO binaries under linux?

No. They wrote their own (mostly) compatible libraries.

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Subject: Re: iBCS2
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Udo Munk (u...@umunk.GUN.de) wrote:

: You cannot link under Linux because you probaly don't have a COFF linker,
: at least the Slackware CD-ROM's don't include one. You need to get the
: GNU linker configured and compiled for COFF under Linux, then you might
: be able to link.

: : I just had a warped idea.  Could someone with iBCS2 copy coherent
: : libraries and link to them under linux?

: Does not work without a COFF linker under Linux, also the Coherent libs
: are COFF objects.

Since you have the Infomagic 3-CD set, look under tsx-11/BETA/ibcs2.


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From: iia...@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: iBCS2
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In article <17344C591S86.6848...@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> 
6848...@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>Hello:
>I saw a thread about iBCS2.  I thought I would get my two cents in.
>A few months ago I used the infomagic CD and used linux 1.0.9
>to use iBCS2.  I was able to run the old COBOL compiler for SVR3
>but couldn't link.  With all the talk about unix belonging to USL
>and then to NOVELL and then to whatever, too bad they can't allow
>linux to have compatible libraries to link with.

There are Linux shared libraries for COFF and ELF iBCS2. Link libraries
however need you to build a suitable C library set. You can do it from
the gnu libc (glibc) but its not easy work and while you can build generic
iBCS2 easily trying to add in all the useful extensions would probably
drive you up the wall.

>SCO compatible libraries so that I can do warped things like linking
>SCO binaries under linux?

You need the relevant SCO license to have the libraries on the machine. I'm
not clear about NFS mounting them. A friend has a similar problem with 
Sculptor 

>I just had a warped idea.  Could someone with iBCS2 copy coherent
>libraries and link to them under linux?

If they are clean COFF it ought to work. Build a COFF gnu binutils (or use
the coherent gnu tools ones).

>Compiling a systemV/386 COBOL program and linking to coherent libraries.
>Warped.  I think I'll pass...

It may or may not work. Its pretty warped anyway if you need the C libraries
to link cobol programs.

Alan

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In article <950220...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us 
(fred smith) writes:
>> SCO compatible libraries so that I can do warped things like linking
>> SCO binaries under linux?
>No. They wrote their own (mostly) compatible libraries.

And as someone who has built a COFF library set and tools so I can build
SCO compatible binaries its not an easy job, and I was plugging in pieces
from all over the place rather than doing anything by scratch. 

Alan
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In article <D4E7nn....@oea.xs4all.nl> ah...@oea.xs4all.nl (Ahmed Naas) writes:
>: You cannot link under Linux because you probaly don't have a COFF linker,
>: at least the Slackware CD-ROM's don't include one. You need to get the
>: GNU linker configured and compiled for COFF under Linux, then you might
>: be able to link.

Yes. This one is easy, and its available in the iBCS development archive.
The one that got me going loopy for ages was that COFF requires a gcc built
for no leading underscores and to use pcc struct returns (which had me for
hours).

I've got a COFF development environment under Linux built entirely out of
free software. I'm not 100% happy with it yet and haven't got around to
tidying it up as it is used for one purpose and does that right. In
paticular it can't link against the shared COFF libc but only the static
one. This is ok apart from when you start trying to build X binaries 8).

>: : I just had a warped idea.  Could someone with iBCS2 copy coherent
>: : libraries and link to them under linux?
>: Does not work without a COFF linker under Linux, also the Coherent libs
>: are COFF objects.
>Since you have the Infomagic 3-CD set, look under tsx-11/BETA/ibcs2.

You still need a decent crt0.o (the example with ibcs2 assumes COFF with
a leading _ which is wrong for SCO libraries). 

Alan
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