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From: root <ro...@zlob.org>
Subject: SCO Free OpenServer and Linux
Date: 1996/11/08
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Hi everybody!
Recently I got a lincense on SCO Free OpenServer R5. I know that it has
Motif and WABI on it, the two things I'd like to run on my Linux box.
The problem is that SCO uses some weird installation software, which,
unlike nice Slackware distribution doesn't have the tar and gz files,
instead there is a directory called archives, in which there is a bunch
of very long binary files. They look like archives, but I don't
understand their format, and they don't have any extension. 
Would anyone with similar problems/solutions post the answer?
				Ilya




From: dnb...@baumhouse.demon.co.uk (Daniel Baum)
Subject: Re: SCO Free OpenServer and Linux
Date: 1996/11/16
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Hi,

I have had absolutely no success running SCO binaries that use shared
libraries; I simply cannot get the programs to find the libraries.

Does anyone know how to accomplish this?

Daniel Baum


Christoph Lameter (clam...@miriam.fuller.edu) wrote:
: root (ro...@zlob.org) wrote:
: : Hi everybody!
: : Recently I got a lincense on SCO Free OpenServer R5. I know that it has
: : Motif and WABI on it, the two things I'd like to run on my Linux box.
: : The problem is that SCO uses some weird installation software, which,
: : unlike nice Slackware distribution doesn't have the tar and gz files,
: : instead there is a directory called archives, in which there is a bunch
: : of very long binary files. They look like archives, but I don't
: : understand their format, and they don't have any extension. 
: : Would anyone with similar problems/solutions post the answer?

: get ibcs and then copy the binaries for pkgadd. Read the manpage on the CD
: and then use pkgadd to install the software.
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From: j...@www.cybersurf.co.uk (John Dow)
Subject: Re: SCO Free OpenServer and Linux
Date: 1996/12/18
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As an excercise in bloody-mindedness (don't do this - it breaks the Free SCO
licence agreement) I have (fairly easily) managed to compile and dynamically
link several Motif apps under linux using the SCO libs, but as I said, why
spoil your prisitine Linux box with pirated software? If you want motif, buy
SWiM

John


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From: ev...@bigbird.telly.org (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Re: SCO Free OpenServer and Linux
Date: 1996/12/18
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In article <slrn5bfop...@www.cybersurf.co.uk>,
	John Dow <j...@www.cybersurf.co.uk> wrote:

>As an excercise in bloody-mindedness (don't do this - it breaks the Free SCO
>licence agreement) I have (fairly easily) managed to compile and dynamically
>link several Motif apps under linux using the SCO libs, but as I said, why
>spoil your prisitine Linux box with pirated software? If you want motif, buy
>SWiM

I have confirmed that using SCO's Motif under Linux does *not* in itself
break the license. The license covers comemrcial use only -- if the
software you build is resold you're breaking the license. If you give it
away you're not breaking anything.

If you could share your methods that'd be great.

-- 
  Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
 Supporting PC-based Unix since 1985 / Caldera & SCO authorized / 905-452-0504
 Unix is user-friendly - it's just a bit more choosy about who its friends are

From: j...@www.cybersurf.co.uk (John Dow)
Subject: Re: SCO Free OpenServer and Linux
Date: 1996/12/19
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:17:55 GMT, Evan Leibovitch <ev...@bigbird.telly.org> wrote:
>In article <slrn5bfop...@www.cybersurf.co.uk>,
>	John Dow <j...@www.cybersurf.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>As an excercise in bloody-mindedness (don't do this - it breaks the Free SCO
>>licence agreement) I have (fairly easily) managed to compile and dynamically
>>link several Motif apps under linux using the SCO libs, but as I said, why
>>spoil your prisitine Linux box with pirated software? If you want motif, buy
>>SWiM
>
>I have confirmed that using SCO's Motif under Linux does *not* in itself
>break the license. The license covers comemrcial use only -- if the
>software you build is resold you're breaking the license. If you give it
>away you're not breaking anything.
>
>If you could share your methods that'd be great.

Sure. But I will double check with SCO first. I really don't want to
encourage muddying the idea of Free Software with pirated stuff. Call me
paranoid. I'll post my (somewhat simplistic) method when I hear back from SCO.

John


-- 
John M Dow, UNIX Systems Administrator
Cyberia, 88 Hanover Street, Edinburgh 
http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/jmd
Born to GNU

From: j...@www.cybersurf.co.uk (John Dow)
Subject: Re: SCO Free OpenServer and Linux
Date: 1996/12/19
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Following a very polite response from SCO, who say they do not see any
reason why I should not use my licenced freeSCO Motif libs with linux,
here's how i did a dynamic compile of xbill and xmcd.

1). I copied the directory /us/rinclude/X11/Xm/ on my SCO partition to the 
relevant include directory in Linux.

2) I copied libXm.* to my Linux X11 lib directory (running ldconfig).

3) I ensured that I was running iBCS.

4) I untarred and compiled xbill with the use motif flag defined in the
makefile.

5) The compilation bombed out at the linking stage, complaining about
undefined references. As far as I could tell, the undefined references were
for routines found either elsewhere in Linux or peculiar to SCO.

so... I

6) took a note of the symbols which were undefined (__foo, __bar, etc)

7) I created a small C program called motif.c which contained some void
functions for the linker to pick up ie

void __foo(void){
}
void __bar(void){
}

8) I added motif.c to the SRCs part of the Makefile and motif.o to the OBJs
part to ensure it linked.

9) Typed make

10) Played a dynamically linked version of xbill

I'm not promising that this will work for every motif app, but it certainly
works for the two I tried.

Give it a go!

John

-- 
John M Dow, UNIX Systems Administrator
Cyberia, 88 Hanover Street, Edinburgh 
http://www.cybersurf.co.uk/jmd
Born to GNU

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