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From raubitsj@yahoo.com Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Raubitschek raubitsj@yahoo.com
Subject: [Livid-dev] LinuxDVD website and mailing list is down

The network connection which hosts the LinuxDVD
website and mailing list, corepower.com has been
severely vandalized yesterday night (9/5/1999).

It is possible that it will be down for several days
if not longer while the fiber optics are being
repaired.

Sorry about the inconvenience.

This I guess is a good time to address the "two list
servers for the same purpose" question:
   I would be very happy to merge the lists, i have
   a few problems with the livid list though:
       1. Archive is not searchable
          The archive isn't useful without this       
   feature!
       2. Not enough links on web.
          I think it is sometimes really nice to have
          a convenient list of links to various
          projects which are related rather than
having
          to search through archives for the ac3dec
          webpage
       3. Downtime
          I guess I cant complain about this now that
          LinuxDVD is experiencing some of its own.

Happy DVD hacking

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From pvolcko@concentric.net Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:49:11 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:49:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: pvolcko@concentric.net pvolcko@concentric.net
Subject: [Livid-dev] LinuxDVD website and mailing list is down

> The network connection which hosts the LinuxDVD
> website and mailing list, corepower.com has been
> severely vandalized yesterday night (9/5/1999).

That's unfortunate.  First time I've heard of a site going down due to
vandalizing, though, and not have it referring to site crackers or
something.

> This I guess is a good time to address the "two list
> servers for the same purpose" question:
>    I would be very happy to merge the lists, i have
>    a few problems with the livid list though:
>        1. Archive is not searchable
>           The archive isn't useful without this       
>    feature!
>        2. Not enough links on web.
>           I think it is sometimes really nice to have
>           a convenient list of links to various
>           projects which are related rather than
> having
>           to search through archives for the ac3dec
>           webpage
>        3. Downtime
>           I guess I cant complain about this now that
>           LinuxDVD is experiencing some of its own.

All good points.  Numbers 1 esepcially.  Number 2 is interesting though 
and I think it goes somewhat to the two different purposes
of the lists.  Linuxdvd was a general non-affiliated list whereas
livid-dev is obviously affiliated and to a certain extent based on a
single project, Livid.  It easy enough to add links to the Livid site and
I suspect that they will be added when the site gets it's makeover in the
near future (if I remember right mpav said something about the site
getting a new look sometime soon).  

I personally see a lot of sense in keeping two seperate lists, one for
general topics applicable to all dvd development efforts (and
announcements from specific projects or of new projects) and another for
the Livid project and it's sub-projects.  But this scheme is pretty much
at the mercy of those posting (especially since the lists are
unmoderated).  Not to mention, in these situations where a list goes down,
it makes sense that there be more than one list, so that communication for
development doesn't need to be affected significantly.  

I vote for multiple lists with people taking care to post to the
appropriate list for their comment.  Moderation if it becomes clear that
people aren't taking that kind of care (note moderation will likely not
censor any messages, merely redirect them to the correct list).

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