From digitech@mmadb.no Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:48:46 +0100
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:48:46 +0100
From: Jon Johansen digitech@mmadb.no
Subject: [Livid-dev] DVD Piracy: It can be done

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32249,00.html

- Jon Johansen
digitech@mmadb.no
http://mmadb.no/hwplus

From jmcc@hackwatch.com Tue, 02 Nov 1999 08:29:10 +0000
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 08:29:10 +0000
From: John McCormac jmcc@hackwatch.com
Subject: [Livid-dev] Re: Livid-dev digest, Vol 1 #100 - 21 msgs

> From: "Jon Johansen" <digitech@mmadb.no>
> To: "Livid-Dev@Livid. On. Openprojects. Net" <livid-dev@livid.on.openprojects.net>
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:48:46 +0100
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [Livid-dev] DVD Piracy: It can be done
> 
> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32249,00.html

The report in Wired is a bit premature. It is still far easier to pirate
movies using conventional videotape. The other point that the Wired
report seems to ignore is that the data for a cracked DVD is huge. It is
not practical to trade such data over the net in the same way that MP3s
are traded. While it may be possible for a commercial video pirate to
rip DVDs, the production/distribution would still be video tape.

The fundamental test in all piracy schemes is has to do with the ease of
use for the end user. If it is easier for the end user to use a pirate
product, then that pirate product will be successful. As far as I can
see, a Linux DVD player is not a serious problem for the movie companies
yet. 

Regards...jmcc

From derek@spider.com Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:10:00 +0000
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:10:00 +0000
From: Derek Fawcus derek@spider.com
Subject: [Livid-dev] Re: Livid-dev digest, Vol 1 #100 - 21 msgs

On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 08:29:10AM +0000, John McCormac wrote:
> > From: "Jon Johansen" <digitech@mmadb.no>
> > To: "Livid-Dev@Livid. On. Openprojects. Net" <livid-dev@livid.on.openprojects.net>
> > Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:48:46 +0100
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Subject: [Livid-dev] DVD Piracy: It can be done
> > 
> > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32249,00.html
> 
> The report in Wired is a bit premature. It is still far easier to pirate
> movies using conventional videotape. The other point that the Wired
> report seems to ignore is that the data for a cracked DVD is huge. It is
> not practical to trade such data over the net in the same way that MP3s
> are traded. While it may be possible for a commercial video pirate to
> rip DVDs, the production/distribution would still be video tape.

I tried to tell the guy this, but he already seemed to have decided
upon a bias for the story...

DF
-- 
Derek Fawcus derek@spider.com
Spider Software Ltd. +44 (0) 131 475 7034
PGP/GnuPG Keys available

From alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:10:13 +0000 (GMT)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:10:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alan Cox alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: [Livid-dev] Re: Livid-dev digest, Vol 1 #100 - 21 msgs

> > are traded. While it may be possible for a commercial video pirate to
> > rip DVDs, the production/distribution would still be video tape.
> 
> I tried to tell the guy this, but he already seemed to have decided
> upon a bias for the story...

That unfortunately reflects a lot of people's experience with Wired
journalists.