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From gearon@computer.org Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:52:13 +1000
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:52:13 +1000
From: Paul Gearon gearon@computer.org
Subject: [Livid-dev] Things to do

I noticed a couple of days ago that Alan commented that he'd like to see
nist in C rather than C++.

I don't know much about mpeg, video, or DVD, but I do know C and C++
pretty well.  If there is a real desire for this sort of thing then I
could start rewriting nist in C (it'd probably help me learn what it
does).

Personally, I like C++, both because of the language structure and
particularly for projects with lots of people.  So it would seem weird
to be backporting to C.  However, C has the advantages of being more
available to people who only understand C (is this a real issue?) and of
being faster (if it's done right).  The later looks to be important
given the number of people who are having trouble with frame rates.

If nobody is interested in this, then is there something else I can help
with?

Regards,
Paul Gearon

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.  (Translation from latin: "I have a catapult. Give me all
the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.")

From aholtzma@ess4.engr.UVic.CA Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:10:53 -0800
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:10:53 -0800
From: Aaron Holtzman aholtzma@ess4.engr.UVic.CA
Subject: [Livid-dev] Things to do

It would seem that Paul Gearon (gearon@computer.org) said:
*snip*
> I don't know much about mpeg, video, or DVD, but I do know C and C++ pretty
> well.  If there is a real desire for this sort of thing then I could start
> rewriting nist in C (it'd probably help me learn what it does).

NIST is a dead end. We're building a new and better world :)

> Personally, I like C++, both because of the language structure and
> particularly for projects with lots of people.  So it would seem weird to be
> backporting to C.  However, C has the advantages of being more available to
> people who only understand C (is this a real issue?) and of being faster (if
> it's done right).  The later looks to be important given the number of people
> who are having trouble with frame rates.

C is also for people who think C++ should've stayed in Stoustroup's twisted
little mind. Remember that :)
 
> If nobody is interested in this, then is there something else I can help
> with?

Look at the TODO list in the mpeg2dec, or check out dvd_play from
http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~dent/files/dvd-0.0.3pre1a.tgz. dvd_play has
what will be the demux/buffer and css modules of the "new player". There's
also the ifo parsers to work on, and a subpicture decoder, and...

There's lots and lots to do!

cheers,
aaron


From dent@cosy.sbg.ac.at Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:18:41 +0100 (CET)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:18:41 +0100 (CET)
From: Thomas 'Dent' Mirlacher dent@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Subject: [Livid-dev] Things to do

--snip/snip

> NIST is a dead end. We're building a new and better world :)

probably we should burn NIST?  - and celebrate ;)

--snip/snip

> Look at the TODO list in the mpeg2dec,
> or check out dvd_play from
> http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~dent/files/dvd-0.0.3pre1a.tgz. dvd_play has
> what will be the demux/buffer and css modules of the "new player".

;) ... so with help of mats and guenter, there is also some beginning
support for the DXr2 card (hw decoder) and a really nice gui.

-btw. i'm still interresed in the KDE gui someone mentioned a few days
ago.

... the CSS code: could someone look it up and optimizes the last few
fractions? 

> There's also the ifo parsers to work on,

the problem on the ifo parser is: i don't know where we are (whats missing),
because i don't have the standard ;) ... but i guess thats a bonus  
... btw. dvdtech is providung some insigths on navigation-commands

> and a subpicture decoder, and...

THIS is really on the todo list - since the guy who posted his status on
the subpicture decoder cowardly hides somewhere, and doen't want to share
his code ;) 

> There's lots and lots to do!

... but we're on the right way ... to a future wich looks promising


	cheers

		++dent

PS: aaron - what about the CVS thing

-- 
Thomas Mirlacher	Student of ComputerScience, University of Salzburg
dent@cosy.sbg.ac.at	http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~dent

From derek@spider.com Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:42:05 +0000
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:42:05 +0000
From: Derek Fawcus derek@spider.com
Subject: [Livid-dev] Things to do

On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 06:18:41PM +0100, Thomas 'Dent' Mirlacher wrote:
> ... the CSS code: could someone look it up and optimizes the last few
> fractions? 

  Someone already started on that,  he's just waiting to get CVS access
to the css-auth module.  In fact I think he posted some of the stuff to
the list.

DF
-- 
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Spider Software Ltd.                                        +44 (0) 131 475 7034
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From maroberts@dial.pipex.com Wed, 08 Dec 1999 13:12:26 +0000
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 13:12:26 +0000
From: Mark A Roberts maroberts@dial.pipex.com
Subject: [Livid-dev] Things to do

Derek Fawcus wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 06:18:41PM +0100, Thomas 'Dent' Mirlacher wrote:
> > ... the CSS code: could someone look it up and optimizes the last few
> > fractions?
> 
>   Someone already started on that,  he's just waiting to get CVS access
> to the css-auth module.  In fact I think he posted some of the stuff to
> the list.
> 

I think you're referring to me - I'm still waiting for someone to give
me CVS access. 

Matthew - can you hear me ? :-)

Regards
Mark Roberts

From Joachim.Koenig@tecnomen.fi Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:59:35 +0200
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:59:35 +0200
From: Joachim Koenig Joachim.Koenig@tecnomen.fi
Subject: [Livid-dev] Things to do


> --snip/snip
> 
> > NIST is a dead end. We're building a new and better world :)
> 
> probably we should burn NIST?  - and celebrate ;)
> 
> --snip/snip
> 
	Some word from the "author" of NIST. I agree with both of you, for
	me NIST was a trigger for a better player to be developed. It did
its
	purpose :)) 
	I decided to put NIST together to see what a softwareplayer could
do.
	I have had no time to work on NIST or any other things as I have
been 
	sick lately. I will not continue with NIST and instead support the
new 
	player. 

	So, lets celebrate ;)

	mfg
	Joachim

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