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From: David Ford <da...@kalifornia.com>
Subject: iBCS with 2.4?
Date: 2000/10/14
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what's needed/where is iBCS for kernel 2.4?

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From: Tigran Aivazian <tig...@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: iBCS with 2.4?
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, David Ford wrote:

> what's needed/where is iBCS for kernel 2.4?
> 

Hi,

The ABI (iBCS is just an Intel-specific standard so the old name iBCS was
a misnomer while ABI is both platform and OS-independent) patch was
maintained during 2.3.x development series jointly by David Woodhouse,
myself and others at least until 2.3.99-preX. Then I left SCO and SCO
collapsed (more or less) and thus was no longer considered as a strong
player in OS market so I don't believe it is worth expending much effort
to emulate their OSes. I hope the same fate awaits Sun together with their
Solaris product (and any other commercial OS vendors, Microsoft will go
next) so I doubt it is worth emulating Solaris either -- there are more
exciting projects for the Linux kernel. So I personally am no longer
interested in ABI. I suspect the unimportance of non-Linux (legacy)
systems is what made Linus decide to not include it in the official
kernel, but I cc'd all people mentioned here to correct me if I am wrong.

Anyway, the latest version of the patch I had you can download from:

http://www.moses.uklinux.net/patches/abi-bcp-2.3.99.patch.bz2

but ask Christoph Hellwig (of Caldera who bought SCO, I heard?) he may
have a more recent copy.

Regards,
Tigran


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From: Tigran Aivazian <tig...@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: iBCS with 2.4?
Date: 2000/10/14
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just to add, that if I am wrong, and Linus does want it in the kernel I am
willing to spend some time cleaning up the code, updating it for current
interfaces and re-testing at least the small parts of it that I wrote
myself :)

(I still have UW7.x.y partitions somewhere and _now_ they are _so_ much
easier to access from Linux and run UW7 binaries directly from there!)

Regards,
Tigran

 On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Tigran Aivazian wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, David Ford wrote:
> 
> > what's needed/where is iBCS for kernel 2.4?
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The ABI (iBCS is just an Intel-specific standard so the old name iBCS was
> a misnomer while ABI is both platform and OS-independent) patch was
> maintained during 2.3.x development series jointly by David Woodhouse,
> myself and others at least until 2.3.99-preX. Then I left SCO and SCO
> collapsed (more or less) and thus was no longer considered as a strong
> player in OS market so I don't believe it is worth expending much effort
> to emulate their OSes. I hope the same fate awaits Sun together with their
> Solaris product (and any other commercial OS vendors, Microsoft will go
> next) so I doubt it is worth emulating Solaris either -- there are more
> exciting projects for the Linux kernel. So I personally am no longer
> interested in ABI. I suspect the unimportance of non-Linux (legacy)
> systems is what made Linus decide to not include it in the official
> kernel, but I cc'd all people mentioned here to correct me if I am wrong.
> 
> Anyway, the latest version of the patch I had you can download from:
> 
> http://www.moses.uklinux.net/patches/abi-bcp-2.3.99.patch.bz2
> 
> but ask Christoph Hellwig (of Caldera who bought SCO, I heard?) he may
> have a more recent copy.
> 
> Regards,
> Tigran
> 
> 
> 

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From: Christoph Hellwig <h...@caldera.de>
Subject: Re: iBCS with 2.4?
Date: 2000/10/17
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[ sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation last week ]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:26:35AM +0100, Tigran Aivazian wrote:
> just to add, that if I am wrong, and Linus does want it in the kernel

If I unterstand David right, he seems to be interested (?).

> I am willing to spend some time cleaning up the code, updating it for
> current interfaces and re-testing at least the small parts of it that
> I wrote myself :)

Ok, I think I have already done lots of this.
Actually I ran uw7 and os5 binaries under -test8.
Anyway I think everyone interested in the abi stuff should join.
If no one has a better idea I will setup a linux-abi projects at
sourceforge and check Tigrans last patch and my changes in - everyone
interested should join.

My primary interests are SCO UnixWare and OpenServer now, but I would like
to get some NetBSD binaries working under Linux sooner or later.

> (I still have UW7.x.y partitions somewhere and _now_ they are _so_ much
> easier to access from Linux and run UW7 binaries directly from there!)

OT: is there a way to get betas of the vxfs stuff?


	Christoph

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