Cease Fire, please
Glenn L McGrath bug1 at ihug.co.nz 
Thu Sep 21 05:51:49 UTC 2006 

The license of this project should serve the best interests of the
project, i fear the future of this project is being jeopardised by
people trying to push their own agenda's.

I am not convinced that the "or later" clause that has been assigned to
original works is revocable, and im sure there are other people who are
uncertain of legal issues surrounding the licensing issues that we are
facing.

GPLv2 clause 9 states "If the Program specifies a version number of
this License which applies to it and "any later version", you have the
option of following the terms and conditions either of that version or
of any later version published by the Free Software Foundation."

I dont see where it implies the right of licensees to remove the "or
later" statement. For all i know removing the "or later" clause may be
adding a further restriction to the license which isnt allowed according
to clause 6.

IANAL, and neither are any of you, so lets not try and prove who is
best amateur.

Can we please get an independent expert legal opinion (i.e. SFLC) on
what is required to move from "GPLv2 or later" to "GPLv2 only" before
we go any further.

When the GPLv3 is released many other projects will face a similar
situation to the one we are now facing, and i believe it is prudent for
us to make sure we do it right.

Glenn

Cease Fire, please
Rob Landley rob at landley.net 
Thu Sep 21 19:31:18 UTC 2006 

On Thursday 21 September 2006 1:51 am, Glenn L McGrath wrote:
> The license of this project should serve the best interests of the
> project, i fear the future of this project is being jeopardised by
> people trying to push their own agenda's.

Well, I'm still working on the project.  The lawyers at the SFLC have reviewed 
the new LICENSE file and http://busybox.net/license.html, and I confirmed 
that Erik's fine with it.

Life is good.  I'm back to coding.

I'd reply the rest of your message, but it's yet another "but wait, I don't 
understand the law!" type message that I'm really really tired of slogging 
through.  You already cc'd me on the email you sent to the SFLC, and they're 
far more qualified to answer your questions than I am.  I'm going to forward 
the rest of this sort of thing to them, and get on with coding.

I should have a busybox-1.2.1.fixes.patch ready in the next few days.  I'll 
poke the list when it's ready for review, and then 1.2.2 should come out a 
day or two later.  That's the last "GPLv2 or later" release I'm doing, with 
all the changes up to svn 16112 that need backporting to -stable.  If anyone 
wants to fork from that, they're welcome to do so.  Not my problem...

Rob
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