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From: Jon Broyles <JOHN@NEMOMUS.BITNET>
Subject: Re[2]: New York Times Disaster
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Response reposted from IBM's OS2BBS:

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 Response to Steve Manes


 From: IBM PSP Media Relations
 10-25-94

 Dear Customer:

 Regarding the NY Times review of Warp in the Science section of
 the Tuesday, October 25 paper; we feel it's important to let you
 know that we spent considerable time addressing the concerns the
 writer has with OS/2 Warp.  Unfortunately, Steve Manes
 fundamentally disagrees with our positioning of Warp as an
 operating system, and thinks we should market it strictly as a
 Windows utility, and therefore thinks we haven't done an adequate
 job of "fixing" Windows.

 We spent a significant amount of time with Manes, discussing his
 issues:

   * Warp does not include device drivers for an Epson color
     printer and a NUMBER NINE video card that were just introduced.
     Response:  we have plans to support it by year end, issue was
     simply timing of Epson's and NUMBER NINE'S  announcement,
     nothing technical.
   * Windows under Warp is slow.  Response:  he used the Ziff
     Davis benchmark designed for testing Windows 3.1
     applications, not 32-bit operating systems.  Ziff
     acknowledges that it is not an adequate test for OS/2
     performance.
   * Warp adds layers of complexity to an already-cumbersome
     Windows environment, and the Workplace Shell is too different
     from Windows.  Response:  this is where he wants IBM to fix
     Windows, and misses the point that we're trying to convert
     Windows users with a better product.

 Some background:  Manes co-authored the book "Hard Drive" on
 Gates.  He doesn't particularly like any OS and has had occasion
 to trash Windows, OS/2 and Apple's System 7.5.

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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 21:34:07 -0400
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  Thanks for your note.  I believe Manes used the correct Ziff-Davis
benchmark and that his review was fair comment.  IBM's irrelevant observation
that he is the author of 'Hard Drive" (in fact he is not) might lead you to
doubt the accuracy of their reply.
                        - Nicholas Wade