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From: Derrik Pates <dpa...@cavern.nmsu.edu>
Subject: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!!
Date: 1996/08/07
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Hello all.

Creative Labs has FINALLY (yes, and officially even) release the low-level
proggy info for their EMU8000 synth chip! (Yay!) I am about to start
writing the driver, but if someone else wants to help, or try their hand,
(or just see what there is to see) go to ftp.creaf.com
/pub/creative/developer and get adip.exe. It MUST be extracted in DOS,
then the self-extractor within must also be pulled out in DOS. (encrypted)
The password for the encrypted one (this is included in the docs) is
FULLAGREE. Justrun it with -sFULLAGREE -d added on, and there's a PDF
inside called emu8kpgm. Has full register level programming info. Check it
out AWE32 users! (Hooray! We did it - it's about time!)

Derrik Pates
dpa...@cavern.nmsu.edu
--
"Some help would be nice... Or a sandwich and a cold beer!!!"  --Boston Low,
                                                                 "The Dig"

From: s...@hackvan.com (Stig)
Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!!
Date: 1996/08/20
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Patrick Michael Kane wrote:
> 
> Stig,
> 
> The issue is not getting the information, which is easy, but legally 
> using the information.  Even if you break the zip encryption, you are 
> still doing something illeagal by utilizing it.
> 
> Patrick
> <mo...@asimov.net>

That depends upon a lot of things.  And, it's really quite possible that
you're not.

Information is intangible.  You cannot use code that is copyrighted because
it's protected by copyright.  And, you cannot write your own code to
implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent.

But "trade secrets" have no protection whatsoever once they've been exposed.
That's why you're forced to sign NDAs before you're made privy to trade
secrets.  There is no legal protection for the secret itself, so the NDA
becomes the sole legal recourse of the party with the trade secret.

The issue is an unpublished API.  It could copyrighted but that doesn't mean
that you can't read it.  And, the copyright only has teeth with respect to
the reproduction of the document.  It CANNOT DICTATE WHAT YOU DO WITH THE
INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED BY READING THE DOCUMENT.

    I'm not a lawyer, but I've seen lawyers discussing this stuff...
    Stig

From: Alan Cox <a...@cymru.net>
Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!!
Date: 1996/08/21
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> Information is intangible.  You cannot use code that is copyrighted because
> it's protected by copyright.  And, you cannot write your own code to
> implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent.

Except in the free world beyond the USA.

Alan

From: s...@hackvan.com (Stig)
Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!!
Date: 1996/08/21
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Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > Information is intangible.  You cannot use code that is copyrighted because
> > it's protected by copyright.  And, you cannot write your own code to
> > implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent.
> 
> Except in the free world beyond the USA.

I guess you're referring to RSA?  RSA does not have an international patent,
only a domestic one.  This is because publication of the algorigthm was
rushed to prevent a secrecy order from the NSA.  US patent law permits you
to apply for a patent up to one year from the date of publication.
International patent law tends to prohibit publication until the patent is
actually approved (certainly until after the patent application is made).
So, because of the forced publication, RSA was not eligible for
international patents.

    But this isn't exactly kernel-related...
    Stig

PS:  Good copyright site:  http://www.benedict.com

From: Alan Cox <a...@cymru.net>
Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!!
Date: 1996/08/21
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> > > Information is intangible.  You cannot use code that is copyrighted because
> > > it's protected by copyright.  And, you cannot write your own code to
> > > implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent.
> > Except in the free world beyond the USA.
> 
> I guess you're referring to RSA?  RSA does not have an international patent,
> only a domestic one.  This is because publication of the algorigthm was

No other country of note recognizes software as patentable, even if there
is a hardware patent. Software is just a statement of mathematical facts

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