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Subject: Re: V window system?
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Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 15:25:40 EDT
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> Does anyone know anything about the 'V' window system? Allegedly,
> it was produced at MIT and is being used as the basis for various CAD/CAM
> systems at Berkeley.
>  
> dirk grunwald
>  
> grunw...@cs.uiuc.edu
> grunw...@uiuc.arpa

You sure you don't mean the "X" window system? 

L S Chabot
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From: stu...@rochester.UUCP (Stuart Friedberg)
Newsgroups: net.graphics
Subject: V distributed graphics
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> > Does anyone know anything about the 'V' window system? Allegedly,
> > it was produced at MIT and is being used as the basis for various CAD/CAM
> > systems at Berkeley.
> > dirk grunwald
> You sure you don't mean the "X" window system? 
> L S Chabot

Actually, I assumed he was talking about the "V" distributed kernel
which has been used for a variety of graphics applications and simply
didn't know it was developed at Stanford.  Since I'm not longer sure
what the original request was about, I'd like to provide the following
references to distributed graphics using the "V" system at Stanford.
There are many other refs to "V" in the systems literature; these are
the ones that I know focus on graphics.  (I have no connection with "V")

Lantz, K.A., D.R. Cheriton, W.I.Nowicki
"Structured graphics for distributed systems"
ACM Transactions on Graphics, 3, 1, (January 1984), pp. 23-51
also as "Third generation graphics for distributed systems"
TR STAN-CS-83-958, Stanford University, February 1983

Lantz, K.A., W.I.Nowicki
"Virtual terminal services in workstation-based distributed systems"
Proceedings 17th Hawaii International Conference on System Sciences, pp. 196-205
January 1984

Lantz, K.A., W.I.Nowicki, M.M.Theimer
"Factors affecting the performance of distributed applications"
manuscript dated 7 February 1984, sorry, don't know where that one appeared

Stu Friedberg  {seismo, allegra}!rochester!stuart  stuart@rochester

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From: j...@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jim Gettys)
Newsgroups: net.graphics
Subject: Re: V distributed graphics (X window system)
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Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 09:31:34 EST
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Keywords: Window Systems, X, Distributed Graphics

In article <12...@rochester.UUCP> stu...@rochester.UUCP (Stuart Friedberg) writes:
>> > Does anyone know anything about the 'V' window system? Allegedly,
>> > it was produced at MIT and is being used as the basis for various CAD/CAM
>> > systems at Berkeley.
>> > dirk grunwald
>> You sure you don't mean the "X" window system? 
>> L S Chabot
>
>Actually, I assumed he was talking about the "V" distributed kernel....

Well, I hate to do this but....

We (MIT Project Athena and MIT Laboratory for Computer Science) have developed
a network transparent window system called "X" for 4.2BSD Unix and Ultrix.
It currently runs on Vs100 displays, Vs1 and Vs2 uVax workstations, among
other things.  Its name could cause confusion.  We started from code
written by Paul Asente at Stanford called "W", written originally for the
"V" kernel.  (Another letter bites the dust).  Publications on it will be
forthcoming eventually.  It is indeed being used in the Berkeley Cad group,
among other places.  It is available from MIT for $100.  For further
information on getting X, send a mail request to "Xrequ...@mit-athena.arpa"
("Xrequ...@athena.mit.edu for those out there running domain name servers
on the internet).  US snail requests go to "Project Athena, X request,
MIT E40, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, Mass. 02139.

X is completely network transparent, supports overlapping windows, text
and graphics in windows, etc, etc.  X attempts to not predefine a user
interface; instead manipulation of existing windows is done through a
seperate "window manager" program; if you don't like ours, write your
own....  At this point there is a terminal emulator (~Vt102 and 4010),
clock, load monitor, imagen previewer, some cute hacks, programmers
interface in C, menu package, several window window managers, demo
programs, screen dump to LN03 laser printer, and some other stuff.  X
does deal with color displays.  X will be on the 4.3 tape as User
Contributed Software.  MIT does not "support" X, but we are interested
in feedback from people using it.
			Jim Gettys
			MIT/Project Athena
			Digital Equipment Corporation

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