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From: daleg...@dalcs.UUCP (Dale Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Re: vi like editor for IBM pc
Message-ID: <2368@dalcs.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 20-Jan-87 07:37:31 EST
Article-I.D.: dalcs.2368
Posted: Tue Jan 20 07:37:31 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 20-Jan-87 23:46:00 EST
References: <903@uwmacc.UUCP>
Organization: Dept. of Math., Stats & C.S., Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Lines: 24
Keywords: public domain, or commericial
Summary: Aztec C comes with one

In article <9...@uwmacc.UUCP>, edwa...@uwmacc.UUCP writes:
> 
>   Are there any public domain, or comercial "vi" or "vi like"
>  editors available ?
> 

The Aztec C Compiler package from Manx Software includes an editor called
'Z' (or 'PCZ') that is an exact duplicate of the 'vi' editor.

The only problem is the Compiler package that includes this editor cost
upwards of $500.  I don't know if Manx offers the editor separately, but
it might be worth a try.  (If you're into C, the Aztec compiler is very
fast and effecient, and comes with an excellent source debugger...)


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From: d...@rna.UUCP (Dan Ts'o)
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Re: vi like editor for IBM pc
Message-ID: <593@rna.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 20-Jan-87 20:55:31 EST
Article-I.D.: rna.593
Posted: Tue Jan 20 20:55:31 1987
Date-Received: Wed, 21-Jan-87 21:46:38 EST
References: <903@uwmacc.UUCP> <2368@dalcs.UUCP>
Reply-To: d...@rna.UUCP (Dan Ts'o)
Organization: Rockefeller Neurobiology
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Keywords: public domain, or commericial

In article <2...@dalcs.UUCP> daleg...@dalcs.UUCP (Dale Gass) writes:
>In article <9...@uwmacc.UUCP>, edwa...@uwmacc.UUCP writes:
>> 
>>   Are there any public domain, or comercial "vi" or "vi like"
>>  editors available ?
>> 
>
>The Aztec C Compiler package from Manx Software includes an editor called
>'Z' (or 'PCZ') that is an exact duplicate of the 'vi' editor.
>
>The only problem is the Compiler package that includes this editor cost
>upwards of $500.  I don't know if Manx offers the editor separately, but
>it might be worth a try.  (If you're into C, the Aztec compiler is very
>fast and effecient, and comes with an excellent source debugger...)

	There is a very good version of VI for the PC available from

		Custom Software Systems
		PO Box 678
		Natick, MA  01760
		617-653-2555

	Although I don't use all the esoteric feature of VI, every VI feature
I am used to on 4.2BSD VI is present on PC/VI, except piping (!). Too bad.

	I believe they want about $130 for it. It is very solid and will edit
large files. It is a little slow on a PC, primarily on startup. Much better to
have a hard disk. It feels fine on an AT.

	You may have to use an ANSI driver other than ANSI.SYS (supplied by
IBM). They recomment FANSI-CONSOLE from Hershey Micro Consulting, but other
drivers may work.

	The Z editor mention above is nice, small and fast. It, however,
implements only a small subset of VI. The version of Z I have, for example,
doesn't allow any EX-style commands such as global replace, etc (only :wq).
It also fails on files above, roughly, 30kb.

	I hope this helps...

					Cheers,
					Dan Ts'o
					Dept. Neurobiology
					Rockefeller Univ.
					1230 York Ave.
					NY, NY 10021
					212-570-7671
					...cmcl2!rna!dan
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From: g...@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (george sawyer easton)
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Re: vi like editor for IBM pc
Message-ID: <1078@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 21-Jan-87 01:09:49 EST
Article-I.D.: sphinx.1078
Posted: Wed Jan 21 01:09:49 1987
Date-Received: Thu, 22-Jan-87 03:38:22 EST
References: <903@uwmacc.UUCP>
Reply-To: g...@sphinx.UUCP (george easton)
Organization: U Chicago Computation Center
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In article <9...@uwmacc.UUCP> edwa...@uwmacc.UUCP (mark edwards) writes:
>
> I finally broke down and bought a pc for myself,  ..........
>
>  Are there any public domain, or comercial "vi" or "vi like"
> editors available ?
>
> Thanks
> mark
>-- 
>    edwa...@unix.macc.wisc.edu
>    {allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!edwards
>    UW-Madison, 1210 West Dayton St., Madison WI 53706

I've used two, and both seem to be excellent products.
The first is PC/VI by Custom Software Systems (P.O. Box 678,
Natick, MA 01760; ph. 617-653-2555). As far as I can tell,
this is a complete implementation of vi with excellent
documentation. Very likely you will learn more about vi
from PC/VI's documentation than from any Unix manuals I've seen.
Vi is much more powerful than many people are aware.

The second vi I've used comes as part of the MKS (Mortice
Kern Systems, 43 Bridgeport Road East, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
N2J 2J4; ph 519-884-2251) toolkit, which includes a korn shell
and a bunch of utilities including vi, more, grep, sed, awk, etc.
I've only had this software for a week or so, and I will never
go back to command.com. The vi seems to be complete, and I haven't
had any problems with it yet. The documentation is Unix-style.
This package seems really nice to me so far, although I haven't
have it long enough to detect subtle problems.

I think both products sell for about $140, but it would be a good
idea to call.

George S. Easton
University of Chicago
ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!gsen

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From: pness...@nis.UUCP (Robert A. Monio)
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Re: vi like editor for IBM pc
Message-ID: <140@nis.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 22-Jan-87 22:30:47 EST
Article-I.D.: nis.140
Posted: Thu Jan 22 22:30:47 1987
Date-Received: Fri, 23-Jan-87 22:12:22 EST
References: <903@uwmacc.UUCP> <2368@dalcs.UUCP>
Reply-To: pness...@nis.UUCP (Robert A. Monio)
Followup-To: earlier remarks about PC-VI's
Organization: National Information Systems, Inc., Minneapolis
Lines: 38
Keywords: public domain, or commericial
Summary: Cheaper version of vi for IBM pc

In article <2...@dalcs.UUCP> daleg...@dalcs.UUCP (Dale Gass) writes:
>In article <9...@uwmacc.UUCP>, edwa...@uwmacc.UUCP writes:
>> 
>>   Are there any public domain, or comercial "vi" or "vi like"
>>  editors available ?
>> 
>
>The Aztec C Compiler package from Manx Software includes an editor called
>'Z' (or 'PCZ') that is an exact duplicate of the 'vi' editor.
>
>The only problem is the Compiler package that includes this editor cost
>upwards of $500.  I don't know if Manx offers the editor separately, but
>it might be worth a try.  (If you're into C, the Aztec compiler is very
>fast and effecient, and comes with an excellent source debugger...)
>

Custom Software Systems sells a VI editor for the PC called PC-VI.  We
use it for all of our editing on our PC's here.  It's a very nice
'copy' of SYS VR2 VI.  It cost $119 through the programmers
connection.

In comparison to 'Z', I've found PC-VI to be better copy.  Z only
allows you to work with files that are 64K or less in size.  PC-VI
allows you to use files larger than 64K.  Also, PC-VI handles my unix
VI macros without any real problems.
 
I would recommend this to anyone who is looking for a VI editor for
the PC.  Contact programmers connection or look for the ads in the PC
Tech Journal.

-Bob


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