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From: dty...@sultra.UUCP (Dermot Tynan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Source pricing...
Keywords: BSD, Sys5 costs...
Message-ID: <2185@sultra.UUCP>
Date: 2 Sep 88 00:59:02 GMT
Organization: Ultrasystems DSI, Sunnyvale, CA
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I don't know if this is the most kosher of subjects, but I'm curious...
What are the costs like for source or binary licences for BSD 4.? or
System V??  I'm not interested in a dollars and cents (ie correct to nearest
fraction of a cent) type answers, I'd just like a rough guess.  I once heard
it cost $80K for a BSD source licence.  How accurate is that?  As far as
binary licences are concerned, I'm referring to a VAX 780-type machine.  I
also read (in a _good_ book on UN*X by Waites), that AT&T turned a blind eye
to people having illicit copies of the source, as long as they didn't use it
for commercial gain.  I find that hard to believe.  That is a situation that
could get out of hand in a *hurry*.  Oh, I almost forgot - what about source
licences for XENIX???  I don't want any nasty messages, or comments about it
being related to the *type* of licence.  I'd just like an all-round average
number.  Thanks in advance,
	- Der
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From: c...@mimsy.UUCP (Chris Torek)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: Source pricing...
Keywords: BSD, Sys5 costs...
Message-ID: <13358@mimsy.UUCP>
Date: 2 Sep 88 10:59:22 GMT
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In article <2...@sultra.UUCP> dty...@sultra.UUCP (Dermot Tynan) writes:
>What are the costs like for source or binary licences for BSD 4.? or
>System V?? ... I once heard it cost $80K for a BSD source licence.
>How accurate is that?

Not.

To buy 4.3BSD-tahoe source code (the current Berkeley release), you
must: a) sign Berkeley's contract, which says, in essense, that you may
give away those things that Berkeley wrote, as long as you credit UCB;
b) pay them $1500 (covers the manual pages, tapes, mailing fees, and
the cost of the people needed to make distributions); c) present a copy
of your AT&T source license, 32/V or later.

The problem, naturally, is c).  If you bought a 32/V license back when
you could buy one, 4BSD source costs a mere $1500. . . .
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From: bos...@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (Keith Bostic)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: Source pricing...
Summary: Try $400.00, not $80K.
Keywords: BSD, Sys5 costs...
Message-ID: <25909@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: 2 Sep 88 16:41:53 GMT
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In article <2...@sultra.UUCP>, dty...@sultra.UUCP (Dermot Tynan) writes:
> I once heard
> it cost $80K for a BSD source licence.  How accurate is that?

Not even slightly.

Any significant expense associated with getting 4BSD results from having
to have an AT&T source license, 32V or later.  As AT&T will no longer sell
you a 32V license, you have to buy the expensive System V ones.  Once you
have an AT&T license you can get 4.3BSD for $1000.  Once you have 4.3BSD,
you can get the latest/greatest, 4.3BSD-tahoe, for $400 (6250bpi) or $450
(1600bpi).

Keith Bostic

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