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Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!tut!funic!uwasa.fi!uwasa.fi!hv
From: h...@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386
Subject: 386/ix archive site
Message-ID: <1990Jul16.203619.7555@uwasa.fi>
Date: 16 Jul 90 20:36:19 GMT
Sender: h...@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE)
Organization: University of Vaasa
Lines: 10
Posted: Mon Jul 16 21:36:19 1990

Well, I've waited - and now that it seems that nobody wanted to do
386/ix archiving I start to do it in nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100).
I announce further when I know the exact location of the directory
that I start to fill with a little help from you OUT THERE.

-- 
===== Harri Valkama   (h...@uwasa.fi, h...@flame.uwasa.fi, h...@nic.funet.fi) =======
| University of Vaasa, PO BOX 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland (fax: +358 61 248465) |
|      Moderating ftp site chyde.uwasa.fi (128.214.12.3) PC directory         |
=== and ftp site  nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100)  Atari ST & Mac directories ====

Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!tut!funic!uwasa.fi!uwasa.fi!hv
From: h...@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386
Subject: nic.funet.fi starts archiving 386/ix
Message-ID: <1990Jul17.153111.15184@uwasa.fi>
Date: 17 Jul 90 15:31:11 GMT
Sender: h...@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE)
Organization: University of Vaasa
Lines: 35
Posted: Tue Jul 17 16:31:11 1990

Now that I know exact location where I can start archiving 386/ix
binaries and sources, I can state that I am ready to accept your
uploads.

nic.funet.fi is 128.214.6.100 and directory where we will meet is
pub/unix/386ix

Here is a short 00read.me file:
....................................................................
	      x xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x
	      x  Welcome to funic.funet.fi     (Finland)  x
	      x xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x

	      Moderator: Harri Valkama (h...@nic.funet.fi)

Drop me a line if you have difficulties/suggestions concerning
this archive site.

If you want to upload us 386/ix PD stuff please feel free to use
directory called 'pub/unix/386ix/incoming'. You can't actually see 
this directory but it is there and you can 'put' into it. After you 
have put files there drop me a mail so that I know to fetch them 
from there right away. And I can then thank you from your upload.

You can find a short description of files in this directory in
the file called 0contents
....................................................................

Bye for now, but let's hope not forever...

-- 
===== Harri Valkama   (h...@uwasa.fi, h...@flame.uwasa.fi, h...@nic.funet.fi) =======
| University of Vaasa, PO BOX 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland (fax: +358 61 248465) |
|      Moderating ftp site chyde.uwasa.fi (128.214.12.3) PC directory         |
=== and ftp site  nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100)  Atari ST & Mac directories ====

Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!tut!funic!santra!digiw!petri
From: pe...@digiw.UUCP (Petri Alhola)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386
Subject: Re: 386/ix archive site
Message-ID: <1192@digiw.UUCP>
Date: 1 Aug 90 14:27:55 GMT
References: <1990Jul16.203619.7555@uwasa.fi>
Reply-To: pe...@digiw.UUCP (Petri Alhola)
Organization: Digiware , Helsinki Finland
Lines: 23
Posted: Wed Aug  1 15:27:55 1990

In article <1990Jul16.203619.7...@uwasa.fi> h...@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) writes:
>Well, I've waited - and now that it seems that nobody wanted to do
>386/ix archiving I start to do it in nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100).
>I announce further when I know the exact location of the directory
>that I start to fill with a little help from you OUT THERE.
>
>-- 
>===== Harri Valkama   (h...@uwasa.fi, h...@flame.uwasa.fi, h...@nic.funet.fi) =======
>| University of Vaasa, PO BOX 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland (fax: +358 61 248465) |
>|      Moderating ftp site chyde.uwasa.fi (128.214.12.3) PC directory         |
>=== and ftp site  nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100)  Atari ST & Mac directories ====

 There has been litle known 386/ix --- Now Interactive UNIX archive, digiw.fi
 working about one year. Curently we does not have internet connection, only
 uucp mail and news. Other problem is that our incoming modem is only 2400
 v22bis, our outcall modem ic 9600 v32 one. Now we have just got 64Kbit/s
 ISDN .... and we try get it working with UUCP, SLIP and PPP. In our archive is
 Gnu emacs for X11, bash, netnews , ditrof to postscript, text to postscript ..
 X font editor, 8 bit xterm, xfig  .... and many other utilities and x11 
 software ported for Interactive Unix. 

 Petri Alhola
 pe...@digiw.fi

Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!tut!funic!santra!santra!oju
From: o...@elektra.hut.fi (Olli Juhola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Availability of tcsh for HP-UX? Please, respond!
Message-ID: <OJU.90Aug2101956@elektra.hut.fi>
Date: 2 Aug 90 08:19:56 GMT
Sender: n...@santra.uucp (Cnews - USENET news system)
Reply-To: Olli Juhola <o...@niksula.hut.fi>
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Lines: 27
Posted: Thu Aug  2 09:19:56 1990


  Hate to bring up the subject, I suppose, once again.

  Any kind sole running tcsh on HP-UX 7.0 9000/350 or alike, please,
  consider sending an uuencoded copy of it by email to the reply-to
  address above.

  Any reference to the binaries of tcsh is also highly appreciated.
  Speak up, if you know there is an ftp-archive.

  I guess the problem is common for many of us using HP-UX.  There is
  little use of tcsh patches with only a binary of csh.  Surely there
  are licensed holders of the csh source code who have run the diffs
  and compiled the tcsh.  There are binaries of tcsh available for so
  many operating systems _except_ HP-UX that I begin to feel a certain
  kind of isolation not to speak of frustration.  It makes you wonder
  that maybe tcsh is so hard to find for HP-UX because there are not
  enough HPs around at the universities...  Or is it just that I
  haven't looked for it hard enough.

  Thank you for your time.

Olli

--
           Olli Juhola
       o...@niksula.hut.fi

Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!kth.se!hemuli.tik.vtt.fi!tml
From: t...@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Availability of tcsh for HP-UX? Please, respond!
Message-ID: <5040@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi>
Date: 2 Aug 90 08:38:55 GMT
References: <OJU.90Aug2101956@elektra.hut.fi>
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Laboratory for 
Information Processing (VTT/TIK)
Lines: 17
Posted: Thu Aug  2 09:38:55 1990

In article <OJU.90Aug2101...@elektra.hut.fi> Olli Juhola <o...@niksula.hut.fi> 
writes:
>  Hate to bring up the subject, I suppose, once again.

>  Any kind soul running tcsh on HP-UX 7.0 9000/350 or alike, please,
>  consider sending an uuencoded copy of it by email to the reply-to
>  address above.

What is so wonderful in tcsh that you can't do in ksh?  Have you tried
ksh?  (OK, I admit that there are a few features in (t)csh that I
would like to see in ksh: the {} metacharacters come first to mind.
Bash (the GNU Bourne-Again Shell) would be ideal, I guess, if only it
was a bit easier to port to HP-UX, or actually POSIX, job control etc.
Or maybe I haven't had time enough to try porting the latest
version...)
-- 
Tor Lillqvist,
working, but not speaking, for the Technical Research Centre of Finland

Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!tut!kannel!kim
From: k...@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Availability of tcsh for HP-UX? Please, respond!
Message-ID: <KIM.90Aug2134117@kannel.lut.fi>
Date: 2 Aug 90 17:41:17 GMT
References: <OJU.90Aug2101956@elektra.hut.fi> <5040@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi>
Sender: k...@kannel.lut.fi
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
Lines: 19
Posted: Thu Aug  2 18:41:17 1990
In-reply-to: tml@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi's message of 2 Aug 90 08:38:55 GMT
Disclaimer: These are my opinions unless otherwise stated

>>>>> On 2 Aug 90 08:38:55 GMT, t...@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist) said:

Tor> What is so wonderful in tcsh that you can't do in ksh?  Have you tried
Tor> ksh?  (OK, I admit that there are a few features in (t)csh that I

One wonderful thing would be that tcsh understands csh syntax, which
many people (incl. me) are familiar with.  Of course one could learn
to use ksh, but what's the point?  A month or two of always having to
type every command twice to get it right would be too much for me!
I'd rather stay with csh.

Ans what is so wrong about wanting tcsh?  I've been trying to find a
binary for BOTH Series 800 and 300 for months - haven't found one yet,
but I've got a dozen patches for csh though ;-)
--
Kim              ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"That's what    ( Kimmo    ! Lappeenranta U of Technology ! k...@lut.fi )
  *I* think."   ( Suominen ! Computing Centre  *  Finland ! KUULA::KIM )
                 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!
batcomputer!christos
From: chris...@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Christos S. Zoulas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Tcsh for hpux; available from:
Message-ID: <10611@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>
Date: 2 Aug 90 15:58:30 GMT
References: <OJU.90Aug2101956@elektra.hut.fi> <5040@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi> 
<KIM.90Aug2134117@kannel.lut.fi>
Reply-To: chris...@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Christos S. Zoulas)
Organization: Electrical Engineering, Cornell University, Ithaca NY
Lines: 40
Posted: Thu Aug  2 16:58:30 1990

In article <KIM.90Aug2134...@kannel.lut.fi> k...@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen) 
writes:
>>>>>> On 2 Aug 90 08:38:55 GMT, t...@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist) said:
>
>Tor> What is so wonderful in tcsh that you can't do in ksh?  Have you tried
>Tor> ksh?  (OK, I admit that there are a few features in (t)csh that I
>
>Kim>One wonderful thing would be that tcsh understands csh syntax, which
>Kim>many people (incl. me) are familiar with.  Of course one could learn
>Kim>to use ksh, but what's the point?  A month or two of always having to
>Kim>type every command twice to get it right would be too much for me!
>Kim>I'd rather stay with csh.

Since so many people seem to request copies of tcsh:
A version of tcsh-5.18 is available on tesla.ee.cornell.edu (128.84.253.11)
Sources, manual page and binaries for the following systems:

-rw-r--r--  1 christos   307647 Jul 22 17:16 tcsh-5.18c.tar.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   285016 Jul 20 02:52 tcsh.aix370
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   209208 Jul 22 15:55 tcsh.att3b15-svr2.1
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   242852 Jul 22 15:15 tcsh.att3b2-svr3.1
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   266240 Jul 25 12:36 tcsh.ds3100-ultrix3.0
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   212992 May 26 00:37 tcsh.hp9000s300-6.5
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   274432 Jul 11 15:35 tcsh.hp9000s300-7.0
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   299008 Jun 12 22:47 tcsh.hp9000s800-7.0
-rw-r--r--  1 christos    40139 Jul 22 15:53 tcsh.man
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   245760 Jul 12 16:11 tcsh.sun4-sunos4.1
-rw-r--r--  1 christos   158720 May 27 09:50 tcsh.vax-mtXinu

Tcsh 5.18c features:

1. POSIX support.
2. 8 bit characters.
3. Bug fixes.

christos
-- 
  _____________________________________________________________________
 |   ARPA: chris...@ee.cornell.edu                                     |
 |   UUCP: {cmc12,shasta,uw-beaver,rochester}!cornell!tesla!christos   |
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Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!sunic!tut!kannel!kim
From: k...@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Tcsh for hpux; available from:
Message-ID: <KIM.90Aug5165545@kannel.lut.fi>
Date: 5 Aug 90 20:55:45 GMT
References: <OJU.90Aug2101956@elektra.hut.fi> <5040@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi>
	<KIM.90Aug2134117@kannel.lut.fi> <10611@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>
Sender: k...@kannel.lut.fi
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
Lines: 30
Posted: Sun Aug  5 21:55:45 1990
In-reply-to: christos@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu's message of 
2 Aug 90 15:58:30 GMT
Disclaimer: These are my opinions unless otherwise stated

>>>>> On 2 Aug 90 15:58:30 GMT, chris...@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu 
(Christos S. Zoulas) said:

Christos> Since so many people seem to request copies of tcsh: A
Christos> version of tcsh-5.18 is available on tesla.ee.cornell.edu
Christos> (128.84.253.11)

This information made me about the happiest man in the world.  THANK
YOU VERY VERY MUCH!

I've made tcsh available on two archives in Finland, Europe.  You can
find it on

	nic.funet.fi	in pub/unix/hpux/tcsh
	lut.fi		in unix/tcsh

I've only included the following files from tesla.ee.cornell.edu

	kim       307647 Aug  5 16:09 tcsh-5.18c.tar.Z
	kim       212992 Aug  5 16:12 tcsh.hp9000s300-6.5
	kim       274432 Aug  5 16:14 tcsh.hp9000s300-7.0
	kim       299008 Aug  5 16:20 tcsh.hp9000s800-7.0
	kim        40139 Aug  5 16:21 tcsh.man

because I only run a HP-UX archive on lut.fi and other binaries for
tcsh can already be found on nic.funet.fi in pub/unix/misc/tcsh-5.18.
--
Kim              ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"That's what    ( Kimmo    ! Lappeenranta U of Technology ! k...@lut.fi )
  *I* think."   ( Suominen ! Computing Centre  *  Finland ! KUULA::KIM )
                 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!samsung!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!SAUNA.HUT.FI!jkp
From: j...@SAUNA.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: misc.security
Subject: Re: Papers on computer security....
Message-ID: <9009100905.AA20827@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: 18 Aug 90 17:44:58 GMT
Sender: dae...@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 4
Approved: secur...@rutgers.edu
Posted: Sat Aug 18 18:44:58 1990

I have put some security articles I have for anonymous ftp in
nic.funet.fi [128.214.6.100] directory pub/doc/security.

//Jyrki

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