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From: j...@sauna.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [comp.sys.nsc.32k] GNU binaries available at nic.funet.fi
Message-ID: <1991Feb9.045550.18988@ox.com>
Date: 9 Feb 91 04:55:50 GMT
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Archive-name: sys/pc532/pc532-minix/1991-02-08
Archive-directory: nic.funet.fi:/pub/misc/pc532/jkp-backups/ [128.214.6.100]
Original-posting-by: j...@sauna.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Original-subject: GNU binaries available at nic.funet.fi
Reposted-by: e...@ox.com (Edward Vielmetti)

I suppose no one is interested in this now when Mach 3.0 is out ;-),
but here goes anyway.

To make bootstrapping the GNU tools easier I'll take a backup of the
important stuff on my pc532 to nic.funet.fi and make it available for
anonymus ftp (or pseudo-anonymoys ftp for the parts covered by Minix
copyright so they are only available for those who have Minix).

The stuff will be at nic.funet.fi:pub/misc/pc532/jkp-backups.  Only
the README file is there now but I have the files made and only need
to transfer them to nic.

Here's the README file:

This directory contains some backups from j...@cs.hut.fi's pc532
system, taken on 8th February 1991.  The contents of the tars are:


  /u/backup:
  total 10856
  drwxrwxrwx   2 jkp      user          176 Feb  8 18:58 .
  drwxrwxrwx   8 jkp      system        208 Feb  8 13:54 ..
  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       346447 Feb  8 17:35 diff8Feb91.t.Z

Dirs /usr/diffs for diffs to various GNU and other free software
distributions needed to make to get them compile under my system.
Also diffs for my minix kernel against the one in Bruce distribution
(/usr/minixdiffs).

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user        20784 Feb  8 17:40 doc-8Feb91.t.Z

The ChangeLog and some other doc files for my system - can be useful
to track down bugs etc.  Especially the libraries stuff are quite a
mess with different stdio libraries.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user        47208 Feb  8 17:42 etc-8Feb91.t.Z

/etc directory

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user      3433707 Feb  8 17:38 gnu-8Feb91.t.Z

The directory /usr/gnu (bin, lib, man):

GNU binaries, including awk 2.11.1, bash 1.05.1, bison ??.??,
fileutils 1.4, compress, cpio, diff 1.15, grep & egrep, elvis 1.4,
emacs 18.57 (get the lisp files from the emacs distribution), find
2.0, gcc 1.39 with Bruce syntax, same with gas syntax, some GNU
binutils, make 3.59, makeinfo, patch, sed 1.06, tar 1.09, texindex.
The library files and manual pages for the above.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user        54170 Feb  8 17:22 incl8Feb91.t.Z

The /usr/include tree (required for the various Minix kernel patches)

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       284373 Feb  8 13:56 kern8Feb91.t.Z

/usr/src/kernel:

Kernel sources for the version of Minix I'm using.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       224667 Feb  8 13:56 lib-8Feb91.t.Z

/usr/src/lib:

Sources for the libraries I'm using (doesn't contain estdio, get that
from the distribution).

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       981449 Feb  8 18:54 locl8Feb91.t.Z

/usr/local:

Contents of my /usr/local/{bin,lib}.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       157882 Feb  8 18:58 man-8Feb91.t.Z

Contents of my /usr/man.
--

The source to the GNU programs are available ie. at prep.ai.mit.edu
and nic.funet.fi.  Please note that the library as it's in the backup
contains some GNU code in it so if you distribute binaries compiled
with the library you must respect the GPL restrictions.

Finally, these are only my backup files so it might not be very useful
to redistribute them to other ftp sites.  And the ports probably
contain googols of bugs as well, but they've been useful to me.

//Jyrki

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From: nico...@cli52or.edf.fr
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: access to funet.fi
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Hi Netlanders,

i have no ftp anonymous
does anybody knows a mail server that will allow me to acces
funet.fi from france
there is many interesting things down there that i can't
find anywhere else
thank you for your respond

Nicolas

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From: j...@meepmeep.pcs.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
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Subject: re: Diffs from funet.fi
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...
-rw-rw-rw- jkp/user  11280 Feb  7 19:23 1991 diffs/gawk-f-2.11.1-
-rw-rw-rw- jkp/user   2051 Feb  7 20:59 1991 diffs/lispref-DIFFS
drwxrwxrwx jkp/user      0 Feb  8 14:16 1991 minixdiffs/
-rw-rw-rw- jkp/user 131770 Feb  7 22:20 1991 minixdiffs/kern-7Feb91-DI
...

Looks like these were packed up on a SYSV file system or something..
Does someone want to re-do these? A lot of the names are pretty badly
broken..

					Jordan

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From: j...@sauna.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala)
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Subject: Re: Diffs from funet.fi
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>...
>-rw-rw-rw- jkp/user  11280 Feb  7 19:23 1991 diffs/gawk-f-2.11.1-
>-rw-rw-rw- jkp/user   2051 Feb  7 20:59 1991 diffs/lispref-DIFFS
>drwxrwxrwx jkp/user      0 Feb  8 14:16 1991 minixdiffs/
>-rw-rw-rw- jkp/user 131770 Feb  7 22:20 1991 minixdiffs/kern-7Feb91-DI
>...
>
>Looks like these were packed up on a SYSV file system or something..
>Does someone want to re-do these? A lot of the names are pretty badly
>broken..

No, they were packed on the Minix file system.  Sorry, I use currently
a 9600 bps bmodem line as a backup and don't have free disk so it'll
take a while before I get around to installing Minix with NAME_MAX of
62 or something.

Just add -DIFFS to the end of the names if they don't have them,
should be easy to do a shell script to do that.

//Jyrki

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From: j...@sauna.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [pc532] More backups available
Message-ID: <1991Feb25.175632.9559@ox.com>
Date: 25 Feb 91 17:56:32 GMT
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Archive-name: sys/pc532/pc532-minix/1991-02-25
Archive-directory: nic.funet.fi:/pub/misc/pc532/jkp-backups/ [128.214.6.100]
Original-posting-by: j...@sauna.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Original-subject: More backups available
Reposted-by: e...@ox.com (Edward Vielmetti)

Well, they say that backups are supposed to be in a different
geographical place that the originals, in case something happens to
the original place.  So, I make my backups available for anon. ftp and
perhaps if something happens to Finland I can still find them in
Germany or someplace ..

Appended to this message is the README file from ftp.funet.fi (known
also as nic.funet.fi, they changed the ftp site name again) directory
pub/misc/pc532/jkp-backups.

By the way, I now use GNU binutils for everything, even the kernel.
Works fine.  Took a while to find a problem with gas: it silently
stops reading the input file when it finds a comment line whose first
non-blank character is numerical.  Nice, huh ?

//Jyrki


This directory contains backups of j...@cs.hut.fi's pc532 Minix system.
They were taken on Feb 8 1991 and later.

The stuff in the directory 1.3 is for the now obsolete 1.3 version
of pc532 Minix.

The dir 1.5 contains diffs and binaries for the current 1.5.10 / 1.3 kernel
hybrid version of Minix.  The GNU binaries for 1.5 are not there yet,
but perhaps soon.  Note that many of the GNU binaries for 1.3 won't work
with 1.5 kernel because a bit different mechanism for non-blocking IO is
used (at least I think that's the reason).

But anyway, if you have a working environment in your machine the diffs for
gcc, emacs, binutils, gas etc. are all there.  Many of them are not that
clean yet, 'cause I was in a hurry to get a decent environment up,
and suggestions and fixes are welcome.

Copyright notice for the GNU stuff is in the file COPYING.  Sources for the GNU
programs can be found in prep.ai.mit.edu and nic.funet.fi dir pub/gnu, and
many other places as well, see the FTP file in the emacs distribution or
nic.funet.fi:pub/gnu/etc.  Diffs to produce the binaries under this directory
are in the tar files 1.{3,5}/dif*.Z.  Note that you might also need somewhat
changed Minix libraries or kernel - the diffs for the kernel and the include
files (and somewhat obsolete versions for the lib stuff) are in the diff tars.

The library setup I use for myself is different from the original
distribution, so it's not easy to take diffs.  There might be some somewhat
old lib diffs in the diffs tars.

Some of the changes to the library and kernel I'm using:
- FIONREAD for ttys (kernel & lib)
- bumped up many constants
- some fixes for tty SIGINT handling
- some other fixes for ttys

Notably, emacs for 1.5 probably won't work properly without FIONREAD
(and perhaps it also won't work without O_NONBLOCK for 1.3), and ckermit won't
work properly without FIONREAD.  Also, emacs subprocesses (M-x shell and such)
won't work unless you fix the library function fcntl.

I also use the GNU tools whenever they're available (assembler, binutils,
make, bash as /bin/sh, grep, awk etc.) so many installation scripts
and such might not work if you don't have the GNU stuff installed.  GNU
binaries are available for the 1.3 in the dir 1.3, and might soon be for
the hybrid 1.5 as well.

The binaries provided all only for bootstrapping purposes, so when you get
a decent environment it's a good idea to really get the original sources,
apply the diffs and recompile & reinstall everything.  You might not use
the same pathnames for things, emacs binary doesn't contain the info, lisp, etc
directories and so on.

Contents of the 1.3 dir tars, the 1.5 contents should be pretty much
the same, and more.

  /u/backup:
  total 10856
  drwxrwxrwx   2 jkp      user          176 Feb  8 18:58 .
  drwxrwxrwx   8 jkp      system        208 Feb  8 13:54 ..
  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       346447 Feb  8 17:35 diff8Feb91.t.Z

Dirs /usr/diffs for diffs to various GNU and other free software
distributions needed to make to get them compile under my system.
Also diffs for my minix kernel against the one in Bruce distribution
(/usr/minixdiffs).

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user        20784 Feb  8 17:40 doc-8Feb91.t.Z

The ChangeLog and some other doc files for my system - can be useful
to track down bugs etc.  Especially the libraries stuff are quite a
mess with different stdio libraries.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user        47208 Feb  8 17:42 etc-8Feb91.t.Z

/etc directory

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user      3433707 Feb  8 17:38 gnu-8Feb91.t.Z

The directory /usr/gnu (bin, lib, man):

GNU binaries, including awk 2.11.1, bash 1.05.1, bison ??.??,
fileutils 1.4, compress, cpio, diff 1.15, grep & egrep, elvis 1.4,
emacs 18.57 (get the lisp files from the emacs distribution), find
2.0, gcc 1.39 with Bruce syntax, same with gas syntax, some GNU
binutils, make 3.59, makeinfo, patch, sed 1.06, tar 1.09, texindex.
The library files and manual pages for the above.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user        54170 Feb  8 17:22 incl8Feb91.t.Z

The /usr/include tree (required for the various Minix kernel patches)

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       284373 Feb  8 13:56 kern8Feb91.t.Z

/usr/src/kernel:

Kernel sources for the version of Minix I'm using.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       224667 Feb  8 13:56 lib-8Feb91.t.Z

/usr/src/lib:

Sources for the libraries I'm using (doesn't contain estdio, get that
from the distribution).

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       981449 Feb  8 18:54 locl8Feb91.t.Z

/usr/local:

Contents of my /usr/local/{bin,lib}.

  -rw-rw-rw-   1 jkp      user       157882 Feb  8 18:58 man-8Feb91.t.Z

Contents of my /usr/man.


The minix stuff (lib, kernel) is not available the same way as the others,
please contact me for details if you already have pc532 minix and want to get
a dump of my kernel, libs & includes.