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From: p...@cs.wwu.EDU (Phil Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k
Subject: Is MINIX on the PC532 dead?
Message-ID: <9106132252.AA09003@strawberry.cs.wwu.edu>
Date: 13 Jun 91 22:52:29 GMT
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   From: k...@ditka.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz)

   I can't speak for anyone else but I've pretty much lost interest. 

I'm sorry to hear that!

   For example, when the ksh clone was posted I thought, "great!"  But
   after wasting a few hours I came to realize that I also need ESTDIO to
   get ksh working.  So, the next day I grudgingly went on a scavenger
   hunt to find this piece, and eventually got it on my machine.  Then I
   tried to build it and found I needed to fiddle a bit.  At that point I
   gave up, partly lack of time, partly lack of interest.

I hope that this ksh experience did not cause you ignore the minix 1.5 hybrid
distribution.  

   whole thing in source form is an attraction.  But I'd rather not be
   *forced* into this mold -- give me binaries or at least sources that
   will build with little more than a few, well documented config
   changes.  ....

I think you should find minix 1.5h in this class.  Granted, we 
didn't distribute binaries for 1.5h, but it should be very easy to
upgrade a working 1.3 to 1.5h.  I even supplied binaries for gcc (cc1 etc)
and for patch that would make the conversion to 1.5h work better.

   For now, my pc532 sits idle, mostly waiting for something to shake
   loose on the Unix front, while I spend my time more productively.

Again, I'm sorry to hear that your pc532 sits idle.  Mine is running
minix 1.5h 24 hours/day and I can dial it from wwu, call wwu from the
machine, etc...  In fact, I'm about ready to post a clone of bc that
is POSIX compatable and is better in several ways than the original
UNIX bc.  MOST of the development of it was done on my pc532 using
minix 1.5h.  I haven't taken the time to get uucp working yet due to
other more interesting things.  With the pc532 and minix 1.5h I finally
have what I have wanted for quite a while, a low cost, home built,
UNIX box!  Sometimes is is hard to remember I'm working on Minix instead
of a BSD or SYSV box.

OK, I'll shut up now!  But my answer to the original question .....

   No way is minix dead!

--Phil

p.s. By the way, the following is my list of people running minix 1.5h.

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This is a list of people known to be using minix 1.5h on their pc532s.
Minix 1.5h is also knows as the 1.5 hybrid.  Some of these have added
things to the 1.5h version.

 Who              email

 Bruce Culbertson <culbe...@hplwbc.hpl.hp.com>
 Sverre Froyen    <sve...@lars.Seri.GOV>
 Bdale Garbee     <bd...@col.hp.com>
 Bob Hayes        <b...@cs.wwu.edu>
 Jordan Hubbard   <j...@meepmeep.pcs.com>
 Robbin Johnson   <rjohnson@nemesis>
 Jyrki Kuoppala   <j...@sauna.hut.fi>
 Eyal Lebedinsky  <e...@echo.canberra.edu.au>
 Phil Nelson      <p...@cs.wwu.edu>
 Robert Vincent   <b...@Shiva.COM>

Known to be working toward minix 1.5h
 Randy Hyde       <rh...@ucrmath.ucr.edu>
 Jon Buller       <j...@vector.dallas.tx.us>

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From: char...@thurse.thurse.MN.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k
Subject: Is MINIX on the PC532 dead?
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Date: 15 Jun 91 02:07:52 GMT
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I'm sending this to n...@daver.bungi.com since my news server is
down.  For me, MINIX on the PC532 is far from dead, but I have
noticed that there has been a lull in postings announcing progress 
on improvements for MINIX/PC532.  I would like anyone who knows of
the following subjects to give us an update on their current status:

1.  Tape driver for MINIX/PC532 for cartridge tapes.

2.  uucp and smail.  (I think someone mentioned having this working.
    has it been posted somewhere and I missed it?)

3.  news software (i.e., rn or something like that.)

4.  gdb (wasn't someone, perhaps Sverre, working on this?)

I am working on tape drive support for the monitor.  I've got an
Archive 2060s, and I've got a program which will read one batch of
sectors from the drive or write a batch to the drive.  However, when
it finishes a read, the program leaves the access light lit on the
drive, and I haven't figured out why yet.  Bruce C. has suggested
that the drive is disconnecting, but I don't get a disconnect message,
and I think (having only had a glimpse of the docs on the drive) that
the default configuration is non-disconnecting mode.  Anybody have any
knowledge of these things?  I'm trying to wangle a set of documentation
on the drive, but it's not easy to get one from the local distributer.
When it's running, it will be available.

Finally, you can add my name to the list of happy 1.5h users.  It is quite
suitable, in my opinion, for developing the applications I've mentioned.

Charles Rennolet
char...@thurse.MN.ORG

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From: sve...@lars.Seri.GOV (Sverre Froyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k
Subject: Re: Is MINIX on the PC532 dead?
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>
>                                  pan uld like anyone who knows of
>the following subjects to give us an update on their current status:
>
>2.  uucp and smail.  (I think someone mentioned having this working.
>    has it b, raposted somewhere and I missed it?)

Karls' port of Minix uucp works fine as long as yly hldon't ask
it to dial out.

>4.  gdb (wasn't someone, perMessrs Sverre, working on this?)

I believe Jyrki has News soworking (with the exception of breakpoints (?)).

Sverre

-- 
Sverre Froyen
sve...@seri.gov, sunpeaks!se

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From: j...@cs.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k
Subject: Re: Is MINIX on the PC532 dead?
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Date: 18 Jun 91 13:22:27 GMT
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In article <9106160128.AA02...@lars.seri.gov>, sverre@lars (Sverre Froyen) 
writes:
[ gdb ]

>I believe Jyrki has this working (with the exception of breakpoints (?)).

Yes, and even breakpoints work sometimes but sometimes they just crash
the machine.  It's somewhere on nic.funet.fi pub/misc/pc532, I don't
remember where.

//Jyrki

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From: p...@cs.wwu.EDU (Phil Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k
Subject: Minix 1.5
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With the most recent announcement of success, I thought I repost my
current list of people that are "using" minix 1.5h.  If you have
any corrections or additions, just send them to me.

--Phil
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This is a list of people known to be using minix 1.5h on their pc532s.
Minix 1.5h is also known as the 1.5 hybrid.  Some of these people have
added things to the 1.5h version.

 Who              email

 Marc Boschma	  <ma...@img.com.au>
 Jon Buller       <j...@vector.dallas.tx.us>
 John Conner	  <con...@empire.com>
 Bruce Culbertson <culbe...@hplwbc.hpl.hp.com>
 Karlheinz Eckmeier <k...@meepmeep.pcs.com>
 Sverre Froyen    <sve...@lars.Seri.GOV>
 Bdale Garbee     <bd...@col.hp.com>
 Bob Hayes        <b...@cs.wwu.edu>
 Jordan Hubbard   <j...@meepmeep.pcs.com>
 Randy Hyde       <rh...@ucrmath.ucr.edu>
 Gary Jennejohn   <g...@sucker.pcs.com>
 Robbin Johnson   <rjohnson@nemesis>
 Jyrki Kuoppala   <j...@sauna.hut.fi>
 Eyal Lebedinsky  <e...@echo.canberra.edu.au>
 Phil Nelson      <p...@cs.wwu.edu>
 Fred Schneider	  <f...@gag.com>
 Julian Stacey    <sta...@guug.de>
 Robert Vincent   <b...@Shiva.COM>
 Des Young        <d...@musashi.wpd.sgi.com>
 Grant Waldram	  <g...@img.com.au>

Known to be working toward minix 1.5h

 Nobody Known

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