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From: b...@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: BSD Net/2 Distribution by UCB/CSRG Suspended!
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 04:14:32 GMT
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Out of curiosity, and figuring maybe it would be a good idea to buy a
copy, I contacted UCB about obtaining a copy of the Net/2 freeware on
tape.

I was informed by Pauline Schwartz (UCB/CSRG) that it is not being
distributed, she cannot tell me why but I should check back "in a
month or two".

I asked if this was due to a technical problem? She said, no, but she
really couldn't talk about it (fair enough, I thanked her and ended
the conversation.)

This is what is known in law as a "chilling effect". No decision, no
court case (yet), but people are changing their behavior as if they
were under a court order.

Very disturbing. Universities should not be bullied like this.

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        -Barry Shein

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From: bos...@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Bostic)
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Subject: Re: BSD Net/2 Distribution by UCB/CSRG Suspended!
Date: 20 Oct 1992 22:38:09 GMT
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The Computer Systems Research Group has temporarily suspended
shipment of the Second Berkeley Networking Release.  Resumption
of the distribution is under administrative review.

Keith Bostic
CSRG

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From: b...@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein)
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Subject: Re: BSD Net/2 Distribution by UCB/CSRG Suspended!
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If intentional copying were the issue then USL would already have an
injunction from the courts ordering the software distribution ceased.

It seems apparent to me that USL's claims are much less palpable than
that simple and relatively easily proven claim. And USL certainly has
the resources to demand that the court order UCB et al to cease and
desist immediately.

But they haven't, so it's fair to guess that they don't.

And it's been several months already (actually, several years since
the Net/1 release and subsequent Net/2 release began public
distribution, but several months since the case has started.)

I think it's safe to surmise that even USL believes it only has a
rather thin case and cannot get any decisive action from the courts.

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        -Barry Shein

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From: j...@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Re: BSD Net/2 Distribution by UCB/CSRG Suspended!
In-Reply-To: bostic@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Bostic)
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In article <1c21ohINN...@agate.berkeley.edu>, bostic@toe (Keith Bostic) writes:
>The Computer Systems Research Group has temporarily suspended
>shipment of the Second Berkeley Networking Release.  Resumption
>of the distribution is under administrative review.

I think the release is available from many anonymous ftp servers - you
could try locating it with "archie", for example.

//Jyrki

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