Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc! cs.utexas.edu!uunet!digex.com!digex.net!not-for-mail From: s...@access.digex.net (Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: PC Magazine Unix Feature Date: 3 Jun 1993 10:59:04 -0400 Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA Lines: 18 Sender: s...@access.digex.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <1ul3jo$iki@access.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Howdy folks, I'm the author of a large part of the Unix feature in the most recent issue of the US's PC Magazine. My question to the good people of comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit is what did you think of the article? Also, since I know this will be a question: Linux wasn't included because the minimum requirements to be evaluated included: MS-DOS emulator and a true GUI (X + Motif/Open Look + Looking Glass/X.desktop/ etc./etc. Please feel free to respond either here on the news group or to my address. Steven -- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@access.digex.net
Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc! sdd.hp.com!caen!uunet!digex.com!digex.net!not-for-mail From: s...@access.digex.net (Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC Magazine Unix Feature Date: 3 Jun 1993 13:30:06 -0400 Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1ulceu$4cv@access.digex.net> References: <1ul3jo$iki@access.digex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net After a small flood of comments from Linux users: I think Linux is spiffy too, I wish it had made the cut too, it I have my way about it, Linux will be mentioned/reviewed the next time PC Magazine does something like this. That said, does anyone have any comments on what the articles did cover. May I also add that the target audience was the usual PCM audience, 90% of whom think the only OS choices are MS-DOS/Windows and OS/2, so the pieces aren't designed for someone whose answer to most computing problems is to write a perl program. Steven -- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@access.digex.net
Path: gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!uknet!pipex!uunet!digex.com! digex.net!not-for-mail From: s...@access.digex.net (Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC Magazine Unix Feature Date: 6 Jun 1993 18:08:24 -0400 Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA Lines: 12 Message-ID: <1utpso$pic@access.digex.net> References: <1ul3jo$iki@access.digex.net> <MUTS.93Jun6092659@muts.hacktic.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Alas, while pure X may be enough for some of us, our defintion of a GUI at PC Magazine is such that a desktop manager is essential. Remember, PCM's audience are looking to GUIs to shield them from the complexities and raw power of a character line interface or, in this case, a network windowing system. For these folks, a desktop manager isn't something that gets in the way, it's a necessity. Steven -- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@access.digex.net
Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net! darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!uunet!digex.com!digex.net!not-for-mail From: s...@access.digex.net (Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC Magazine Unix Feature Date: 7 Jun 1993 18:34:41 -0400 Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <1v0fq1$9gk@access.digex.net> References: <1ul3jo$iki@access.digex.net> <C88Euz.4AC@telly.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net The PC Magazine criteria wasn't based on Microsoft-is-God. The GUI/desktop manager and DOS-compatibility criteria came from the simple fact that regardless of OS, the world is turning to GUIs, and of course a magazine that talks to one million PC users has to address their concerns that if they did decide to go to Unix that they wouldn't have to abandon their DOS/Windows applications. If you lived and died by perl wouldn't you want to know if an OS someone was trying to convince you to take seriously could support it? Steven -- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@access.digex.net
Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net! math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!digex.com!digex.net!not-for-mail From: s...@access.digex.net (Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC Magazine Unix Feature Date: 7 Jun 1993 23:41:44 -0400 Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <1v11po$hvg@access.digex.net> References: <1ul3jo$iki@access.digex.net> <MUTS.93Jun6092659@muts.hacktic.nl> <1utpso$pic@access.digex.net> <STEVE.93Jun7175401@shasta.crc.ricoh.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net PCM readers are as capable of use Windows are as capable of remembering DOS as X-Windows users are of remembering Unix. This seems to be heading in an rwar direction so I'm not going to comment from here on out, but like 'em or hate 'em desktop managers built around a GUI are what most folks want and probably by now what most people use. That's, by the by, is just the way it is, I myself will take the speed and power of a pure, unadulatered Korn shell any day of the week. Steven -- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@access.digex.net
Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu! uunet!digex.com!digex.net!not-for-mail From: s...@access.digex.net (Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols) Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC Magazine Unix Feature Date: 17 Jun 1993 21:41:03 -0400 Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA Lines: 8 Message-ID: <1vr6ff$i09@access.digex.net> References: <1ul3jo$iki@access.digex.net> <1v0fq1$9gk@access.digex.net> <50955@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <58@lintech.win.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net I might add that all the authors of the PCM Unix articles are Unix users first and foremost in their own operating system habits. Steven -- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@access.digex.net