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From: b...@tsunami.demon.co.uk (Ben Walter)
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Subject: BSD T-Shirts?
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I remember reading a while ago about T-Shirts with the BSD daemon and a
slogan that went something like "Net/2 USL 0" Can you really get these
t-shirts? If so I gotta get one!

Ben


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From: mckus...@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Kirk McKusick)
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Subject: Re: BSD T-Shirts?
Date: 11 Aug 1993 00:39:44 GMT
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Sorry if this is too commercial, but I am getting tired of answering
inquiries one by one.

The new 4.4BSD T-shirts are just now hot off the presses. The new
art has the BSD Daemon standing in Birkenstocks on top of the world
skewering a deflated deathstar on his trident. Under the picture
is the text ``Free the Berkeley 4.4!''. The shirts are available
only in ash, as that color is designed to integrate with the six
color half tone artwork. The shirts are Hanes ``Beefy-T'' preshrunk
100% cotton; they are generously cut, so after their first washing
will fit similarly to a polyester shirt of the same size. The
available sizes are M, L, and XL; the cost is $15 each (shipments to
California are $13.86 plus $1.14 sales tax). In quantities of ten or
more, the price is $12.50 each (shipments to California are $11.55 plus
$0.95 sales tax). There is a mailing fee of $4.00 independent of order
size (for orders outside the United States, the mailing fee is $4.00 if
you want your order sent by surface mail or $8.00 if you want your
order sent via airmail).  To order, send me your postal address and
mail your check or money order (payable in US dollars) to:

	Kirk McKusick
	1614 Oxford St
	Berkeley, CA 94709-1608
	USA

As they say on the cereal boxes, offer good while supplies last!

	Kirk McKusick

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From: d...@alice.att.com (Dennis Ritchie)
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Sigh.  Does the new BSD T-Shirt really still have a deflated
deathstar with horizontal blue lines, or does it have the new one
with grey right-angled lines?   I mean, look.  Gimme a break.

Judge Debevoise turned out not to care much that USL placed
BSDI in the imaginary town of Richmond Falls, Virginia,
and the new judge probably won't care much that the Regents say
that USL is still a majority-owned subsidiary of AT&T.

But some people do care about these details, right?

In return for a correctly-styled T-shirt and transportation
expenses, I'll trade you a stint as an expert witness
in either trial.  No joke.


	Dennis Ritchie

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From: mckus...@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Kirk McKusick)
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A brief note of clarification on the recently announced T-shirts.
The T-shirts were first designed shortly after the USL suit was
filed against the University of California. At the time USL was
majority owned by AT&T, so I deemed it appropriate to have the BSD
daemon skewer a deflated blue horizontally striped ball. With the
sale of USL to Novell, it no longer seems appropriate to lambaste
AT&T; since Novell has not yet made their position clear, it also
seemed premature to lambaste them. So, the latest rendition of the
T-shirt pokes holes in the corporate logo most directly responsible
for the lawsuit. While many may confuse the deflated angular mass
on the trident as purple spaghetti, those reading this newsgroup
will recognize its true identity: the dreaded Deathsquare.

Because of several requests from the little people and the giants,
I will be adding size Small and XXLarge to the set of available
sizes that may be ordered. Also, I recently came across a box of
the earlier shirts, so some of the orders were filled with these
shirts. This same box also contained a few Medium-sized 4.3BSD
daemon shirts (the 4.3BSD daemon appears on the cover of ``The
Design and Implementation of 4.3BSD UNIX'' book). These are also
available on a first come-first served basis.

	Kirk McKusick

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From: d...@alice.att.com (Dennis Ritchie)
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Kirk, I should not have doubted your judgment of the situation!
Needless to say, my check for a Deathsquare T-shirt
is in the mail.

	Dennis

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From: mckus...@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Kirk McKusick)
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Subject: Re: BSD T-Shirts?
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To keep this posting from being utterly boring, I thought I would
share with you some of the experiences that I have had since I
posted the offer of T-shirts about a month ago. First, the response
has overwhelmed me. I had about 200 shirts on hand when I first
posted the message. They sold out in the first three days. I
reordered 600 more of which only a few of the smaller sizes remain.
I have placed a second reorder with my supplier; they have informed
me that the new shirts will be available in mid September. I have
spent most of the past month learning how to do order fulfillment,
international shipping, and every conceivable method of money
transfer.  The job does not pay all that well. Initially I earned
about $10 per hour; I am now up to nearly $25 per hour. Good for
clerical work, but lousy compared to my usual consulting rates.
The interesting part of the job is all the letters that people send
in commenting on various aspects of their thoughts about CSRG and
BSD. I would not recommend this as a career occupation, but it has
been an interesting transition since I `retired' from the university
in mid-July (only the distribution staff remains at CSRG).

On to the more mundane issues. Many people requested T-shirts for
their kids. I have gotten some Youth sizes added. The art does not
fit onto Toddler sized shirts. I have also expanded the set of
available adult sizes to include Small and XXLarge.  I have had a
few requests for XXXLarge. My supplier is looking into getting some
of these, though there will be some surcharge (probably about $2.00
extra if they become available). Having learned about the costs of
international airmail, I have had to revise the foreign shipping
charges. So, without further comment, here is the revised version
of the posting.

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The new 4.4BSD T-shirts are just now hot off the presses.  The new
art has the BSD Daemon standing in Birkenstocks on top of the world
skewering a deathsquare on his trident.  Under the picture is the
text ``Free the Berkeley 4.4!''.  The available sizes are Youth
Small (YS, ages 6-9), Youth Medium (YM, ages 10-13), Youth Large
(YL, ages 14-16), Adult Small (S), Adult Medium (M), Adult Large
(L), Adult Extra Large (XL), and Adult Extra Extra Large (XXL).
The shirts are available only in ash, as that color is designed to
integrate with the six color halftone artwork.  The shirts are
Hanes ``Beefy-T'' preshrunk 100% cotton; they are generously cut,
so after their first washing will fit similarly to a polyester
shirt of the same size.

The cost is $15.00 each (shipments to California are $13.86 plus
$1.14 sales tax).  In quantities of ten or more, the price is $12.50
each (shipments to California are $11.55 plus $0.95 sales tax).
Within the United States, Canada, and Mexico, there is a mailing
fee of $4.00 independent of order size.  For orders outside the
United States, Canada, and Mexico, the shipping fee is $2.00 per
shirt ($8.00 minimum) if you want your order sent via airmail or
$1.00 per shirt ($4.00 minimum) if you want your order sent by
surface mail.  These prices are good through June 1994; after that
date contact me for current pricing.

Payment may be made by money order or personal check payable in US
dollars.  In general, I am not set up to handle credit cards.
However if you are ordering from a foreign country and getting a
check is too difficult, contact me to see if I can arrange to take
a Visa or Mastercard.  Send your order to me at:

	Kirk McKusick
	1614 Oxford St
	Berkeley, CA 94709-1608

Please include an electronic mail address at which to contact you
should I have any questions about your order. As they say on the
cereal boxes, offer good while supplies last!

	Kirk McKusick

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