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From: an...@wx.gtegsc.com (Andy Moskoff)
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Subject: HP ScanJet II what are you?
Date: 2 Dec 93 17:22:24 GMT
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Hi Everyone:


Just a note to those working on a driver for the HP ScanJet IICX. Apparently,
this is NOT a SCSI device! I was talking to a retailer a week ago and this
device comes with a special interface card for an ISA slot.  Now, I don't
own one of these yet, so I can't be sure. But I definitely want a SCSI scanner.
Anybody have contradictory info? Maybe the IIC is SCSI but *NOT* the IICX?

-Andy

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From: st...@tardis.co.uk (Stuart Hayton)
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Subject: Re: HP ScanJet II what are you?
Date: 2 Dec 93 19:14:21 GMT
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Id really like to get to the bottom of this too. We were just about to buy one.
I thought the HP Scanjet IICX WAS/IS a scsi device - although it comes with its
own cheap interface card (CAM compliant ?) which isnt quite a general purpose
SCSI adapter.
For those who already have an adaptec or similar (ASPI) in their DOS box
then you can ellect to use that and it would be/is suported by the
Scanjet stuff. 

After all its got a SCSI address selector switch on the back and a SCSI in and
a SCSI out connector. At least according to this months
"Personal Computer Magazine" (UK).

Now my distributor said it wouldnt work with an adaptec - I put that down
to him just getting a little confused between the words "would" and "wouldnt"
because when I'd seen it on demo one of the principle pluses of the CX was
it was true SCSI. Now Im not so sure ... time for more delving before I commit.


Stuart.

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From: bd...@gag.com (Bdale Garbee)
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Subject: Re: HP ScanJet II what are you?
Date: 3 Dec 93 16:13:10 GMT
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In article <19021.93...@dragon.tardis.co.uk> you wrote:

: Id really like to get to the bottom of this too. We were just about to buy one.
: I thought the HP Scanjet IICX WAS/IS a scsi device - although it comes with its
: own cheap interface card (CAM compliant ?) which isnt quite a general purpose
: SCSI adapter.

I believe this is correct.  I work for HP by day, but nowhere near the guys
who do scanner stuff.  However, I've been considering a 2CX for my cubicle at
work, and the process for getting one working with an HP 9000/735 workstation
appears to be to buy the base scanner without interface crud, then acquire a
software-only package called something like Deskscan/UX, which I believe may
contain third-party software content.... it shows up as part of the MPower
multimedia toolset, if anyone cares.

In any case, it appears that they intend for you to hang it on the SCSI port
on the workstation, so I believe that the scanner *is* SCSI, and that the
reason a DOS-oriented vendor might get confused is that HP's DOS-oriented
driver software expects you to use the card HP ships with the software, and not
any old SCSI card you happen to already have on the bus.  

We have the same "problem" with SCSI-interfaced programmers for FPGA's in our
lab... they each ship with an interface card and driver software that expects
that card under DOS... because, after all, you'd never use the same PC for 
more than one thing, right?  (no smiley)  If you can get driver software for 
the workstation (UX) environment, then you can gleefully string these things
together on an 8-bit single-ended SCSI interface and go to town...

I obviously can't promise anything, but I bet all you have to do is buy the
base scanner, hang it on your existing Adaptec or whatever supported SCSI 
interface, and write lots of software...

Bdale