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From: smi...@eisner.decus.org
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: More info...
Message-ID: <1994Jan22.131409.2011@eisner>
Date: 22 Jan 94 13:14:09 -0500
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          <<< TOPAZ::$255$DUA108:[NOTES$LIBRARY]BOARD_PUBLIC.NOTE;1 >>>
                  -< Welcome to the Board_Public conference >-
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Note 175.33               New Orleans Program Committee                 33 of 34
TOPAZ::NEWKIRK "Debbi"                               26 lines  22-JAN-1994 13:02
                                -< My view... >-
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    Speaking as a member of the program committee, but not on behalf of the 
    committee, let me tell you that not all points in that announcement had
    concensus and we are still challenging some of the 'assumptions'...
    That message is a result of conversation during a conference call that
    denied our request (the program committee) to have authority over who
    could or could not have access to the system.
    
    There is an assumption on the part of the board that SIGs/MIFs will
    continue to provide services to the content of the symposium... only it
    must *all* happen through the chair.  This is a perfect opportunity for
    someone who thrives on power to be able to control and impact a lot of
    things.  This is also a perfect example of 'single point of failure' in
    a 'mission critical' function - which I thought was *exactly* what the
    BoD did NOT want for volunteers.
    
    With SIGs on the way out and MIFs on the way in, things are not getting
    attention because of the confusion and uncertainty.  
    
    Back in the "old days" we knew we could count on the last minute
    submissions because we had a lot of faith in the system and it always
    worked.  I'm not at all convinced that the sessions will suddenly
    appear... but surprise me!  In the meantime, I know that I will be
    wearing many hats as I work behind the scenes to solicit content and
    speakers... to change the process so the program committee can do its
    job effectively... to identify the variety of tasks that will need
    attention...

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From: dca...@stonehenge.win.net (Doug Cadmus)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 03:48:33 GMT
Subject: Re: More info...
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In article <1994Jan22.131409.2011@eisner>, 
smi...@eisner.decus.org (smi...@eisner.decus.org) writes:
>          <<< TOPAZ::$255$DUA108:[NOTES$LIBRARY]BOARD_PUBLIC.NOTE;1 >>>
>                  -< Welcome to the Board_Public conference >-
>================================================================================
>Note 175.33               New Orleans Program Committee                 33 of 34
>TOPAZ::NEWKIRK "Debbi"                               26 lines  22-JAN-1994 13:02
>                                -< My view... >-
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    Speaking as a member of the program committee...
>    
>    With SIGs on the way out and MIFs on the way in, things are not getting
>    attention because of the confusion and uncertainty.  
    
I've just recently tuned in to this particular argument, and
frankly, I haven't a clue what's going on.  Evidently there'e been
a major change in the DECUS administration, organization, etc. 
SIGs on their way out?  So what's a MIF?

I'm not politically involved in DECUS, I'm just a member who
attends about every other session with the hope of taking home
reliable information about Digital's products, services, state of
being, and general direction.  It's also a good opportunity to get
together with other folk who are trying to do the same things I'm
doing, compare our approaches, get some advice, and maybe give
some, too.

I'd been considering doing a session this year - I think there are
quite a few people out there who are interested in some of the
things we're doing and how we're doing it.  I've never presented a
session before - how will these changes affect me?

-dec 

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From: k...@umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
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Subject: Re: More info...
Date: 26 Jan 1994 11:46:19 -0500
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In article <1...@stonehenge.win.net>,
Doug Cadmus <dca...@stonehenge.win.net> wrote:
>    
>I've just recently tuned in to this particular argument, and
>frankly, I haven't a clue what's going on.  Evidently there'e been
>a major change in the DECUS administration, organization, etc. 
>SIGs on their way out?  So what's a MIF?

Boy are you in for a surprise.

SIGS are turning into Member Initiated Forums.  LUGS can as well.  The
major difference is that a MIF has no authority, no budget, and exists
at the pleasure of the BoD on a year-to-year basis.  At the moment,
there are no MIFs, just SIGs that have filed petitions to become one.

The deadline for existing SIGs to submit petitions to become MIFs is 1
February.  After then, if a petition has not been filed, the SIG ceases
to exist.  99% of them are going to do it.

There is no deadline for the LUG/MIF petition process (or none that I am
aware of), nor for any NEW MIFs that might like to form.


>quite a few people out there who are interested in some of the
>things we're doing and how we're doing it.  I've never presented a
>session before - how will these changes affect me?
>

If you are planning to submit, you only have a few more days to do so.
The New Orleans CFP deadline is 1 February.  You can FTP a CFP via
anonymous ftp to DECUS.ORG.  Or, if you have an old one, use that.
Once you have completed it, you can send it to the DECUS office, FAX it
to them, send it via Email to an address on the CFP, or send it to your
favorite SIG/MIF chair.


-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNIX SIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		       Only a guest at klr@.umbc.edu
	     Are creative spellings like a patentable life form?

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