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From: dil...@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon)
Subject: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C.
Date: 1999/02/13
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    There is a small but interesting FreeBSD mention in LWN in an interview
    with Linux's Alan Cox.

	http://lwn.net/1999/features/ACInterview/

    The whole article is interesting.  I sure hope the linux people get a
    source control system together soon, it really sounds like Linus is
    getting strained.  I checked out the linux kernel list archives and
    it looks like CVS has been suggested, but there's always someone who has
    had a really bad experience with it and that is stopping them from using
    it.  Maybe someone in this group with ties into the linux groups can
    casually mention how well CVS is working for us to maybe get them to move
    to it a little more quickly.  I have no doubt that they will be forced to
    do it at sometime or another.  The sooner they do it, the better.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>

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From: "Daniel C. Sobral" <d...@newsguy.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C.
Date: 1999/02/13
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Matthew Dillon wrote:
> 
>     The whole article is interesting.  I sure hope the linux people get a
>     source control system together soon, it really sounds like Linus is
>     getting strained.  I checked out the linux kernel list archives and
>     it looks like CVS has been suggested, but there's always someone who has
>     had a really bad experience with it and that is stopping them from using
>     it.  Maybe someone in this group with ties into the linux groups can
>     casually mention how well CVS is working for us to maybe get them to move
>     to it a little more quickly.  I have no doubt that they will be forced to
>     do it at sometime or another.  The sooner they do it, the better.

Interestingly, there are people here that don't like CVS either. Now
and then there is a thread about using something else for source
control. It always dies because there is now free alternative that
fixes all problems with cvs, so there wouldn't be much of a benefit.

--
Daniel C. Sobral			(8-DCS)
d...@newsguy.com
d...@freebsd.org

	Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe.


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From: Matthew Dillon <dil...@apollo.backplane.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C.
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:Interestingly, there are people here that don't like CVS either. Now
:and then there is a thread about using something else for source
:control. It always dies because there is now free alternative that
:fixes all problems with cvs, so there wouldn't be much of a benefit.
:
:--
:Daniel C. Sobral			(8-DCS)
:d...@newsguy.com
:d...@freebsd.org

    There isn't much out there that we could replace CVS with, at least
    not that's proven, free, and works (mostly) without error with lots of
    people using it all at once.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dil...@backplane.com>


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From: Bill Fumerola <bi...@chc-chimes.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C.
Date: 1999/02/13
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On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

>     There isn't much out there that we could replace CVS with, at least
>     not that's proven, free, and works (mostly) without error with lots of
>     people using it all at once.

Not to go Microsoft bashing, BUT...

We used MS Sourcesafe here locally for about 4 years, I haven't heard a
single person yet who's said "let's go back" or "CVS can't do XXX as well
as SS could."

WinCVS is a godsend for my point-and-click-only people too.

- bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp -
- ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@FreeBSD.org  -




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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <j...@zippy.cdrom.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C. 
Date: 1999/02/13
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If we wanted to use a commercial solution then the choice would be
more than clear - Perforce!  Our CVS repository meister(s) like it a
lot and one can get copies of the perforce server for FreeBSD at the
low low price of $1 (perforce's generous way of giving something back
to the FreeBSD community).

However, we don't want to use a commercial solution for lots of
various reasons, not least of which the fact that we have one hell of
a lot invested in CVS.  Our CVS web stuff, the CTM delta generator,
the ubiquitous CVSup program, all would have to be substantially
redesigned for a new SCM tool and that would be a lot of work.

- Jordan

> On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> 
> >     There isn't much out there that we could replace CVS with, at least
> >     not that's proven, free, and works (mostly) without error with lots of
> >     people using it all at once.
> 
> Not to go Microsoft bashing, BUT...
> 
> We used MS Sourcesafe here locally for about 4 years, I haven't heard a
> single person yet who's said "let's go back" or "CVS can't do XXX as well
> as SS could."
> 
> WinCVS is a godsend for my point-and-click-only people too.
> 
> - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp -
> - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@FreeBSD.org  -
> 
> 
> 
> 
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