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From: mgr...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Is AT&T listening?...
Message-ID: <1992Jul23.200547.22246@cs.rose-hulman.edu>
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I have seen people from apple.com very active in the Linux newsgroup, which  
would seem like treason to me, and ADM and Intel people in the comp.sys.intel  
group, but we haven't heard from AT&T here.

AT&T, are you listening?
_______________________________
Joseph T. Batt
mgr...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: lyn...@ampr.ab.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Is AT&T listening?...
Summary: Yes, and they're still a bunch of twits.
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Date: 24 Jul 92 17:40:08 GMT
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Organization: Boycott AT&T!
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mgr...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu writes:

> I have seen people from apple.com very active in the Linux newsgroup, which  
> would seem like treason to me, and ADM and Intel people in the comp.sys.intel 
> group, but we haven't heard from AT&T here.

> AT&T, are you listening?

Yes, they're listening. c...@ulysses.att.com was kind enough to point
out that one of my previous postings about the copying of /bin/true
source code was incorrect. It is in fact, as he stated in e-mail, the
BSD version of /bin/true that contains 'echo 0'. The System V version
of /bin/true instead contains five lines of copyright notice, one line
of version control information, and a colon. 

What really impresses me about System V's version of /bin/true is that
it only took them four revision of the code to get a single character
shell script right. Now THAT's the sort of intellectual property I would
hire a building full of lawyers to defend!

AT&T: just say NO.

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From: g...@adagio.UUCP (Greg Lehey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Is AT&T listening?...
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Date: 25 Jul 92 12:01:28 GMT
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In article <9...@ampr.ab.ca> lyn...@ampr.ab.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg) writes:
>Yes, they're listening. c...@ulysses.att.com was kind enough to point
>out that one of my previous postings about the copying of /bin/true
>source code was incorrect. It is in fact, as he stated in e-mail, the
>BSD version of /bin/true that contains 'echo 0'. The System V version
>of /bin/true instead contains five lines of copyright notice, one line
>of version control information, and a colon. 

The number of lines of code is irrelevant; what's important is the
copyright notice. Look, for example, at an AT&T version of /etc/fstab.
Do you have something like:

#	Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988 AT&T
#	  All Rights Reserved

#	THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T
#	No, come to think of it, this is utter bullshit. Apart
#	from this copyright notice, everything in this file has
#	been created by the local sysop. It contains no source
#	code whatsoever.
#	The copyright notice above does not evidence any
#	actual or intended publication of such source code.

#ident	"@(#)fstab.sh	2.3 - 88/05/26"

# format: mountdev fs [-[rd]] [fstype]
# This file is used by /etc/mount, /etc/mountall, and /etc/rmountall


/dev/dsk/0s3	/usr
/dev/dsk/1s4	/src
allegro:/usr	/allegro/usr	NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft
allegro:/	/allegro/root	NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft
allegro:/bsdi	/bsdi		NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft
allegro:/var	/var		NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft
allegro:/pub	/pub		NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft
# grave:/		/grave  NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft
# /dev/dsk/0p1 	/c	DOS	

Presumably I would not be able to give a copy of this file to a
customer without an AT&T license, since it contains an AT&T copyright
statement. I am not even allowed to remove it. It's not clear what
would happen if I were to remove the file and start again from
scratch, and what the difference would be between that line of action
and just removing the copyright notice.

-- 
Greg Lehey                       | Tel: +49-6637-1488              
LEMIS                            | Fax: +49-6637-1489
Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany
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