From: cf...@chromatic.com Subject: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/04/22 Message-ID: <cfoggDq9F4H.DAI@netcom.com> X-Deja-AN: 150911880 sender: cf...@netcom15.netcom.com organization: Internet followup-to: alt.video.dvd newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd, rec.video,comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc Title: DVD Notes from DVD Forum Draft: 1.0 From: C. Fogg <cf...@chromatic.com> Date: April 11, 1996 These are my notes from attending the DVD Forum held at the Westin Santa Clara hotel in Santa Clara, California April 10 and 11, 1996. Some facts are summarized from the booklet distributed at the meeting. Additional data has been added from verbal presentations and my own preconceptions. HTML version some day, perhaps with illustrations... WARNING: This document has been slapped together so kindgly forgive any errors (read: you're lucking you're getting this in the first place :-) Number one question: how do I get the DVD spec ? ================================================= At the time of this forum, a new spec was just being drafted. This should delay any distribution for a few weeks. Currently, it costs $5,000 USD (U.S. Dollars) to join the DVD Consortium, which has been the only way to obtain a legal copy of the spec. This policy is expected to change soon. But note that today it still costs real money to obtain copies of the old CD books (Blue, White, Green, Red, etc.) The DVD Consortium also wishes to improve the "dearth" of technical information on the World Web Web/Internet. Forum ===== The Forum was hosted by Matsushita, Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Sony, Thomson, Time Warner, Toshiba, and JVC. The General Session ran during the morning hours. The Hardware/Component, Media Software, and Physical breakout sessions ran as parallel tracks in the afternoon. The general session started with overviews of the DVD books and ended with a panel of Hollywood home video studio executives, followed by another panel of game developers. Most of the audience (~500 people each day) originated from the hardware sector (semiconductor, board vendors, etc.) rather than the software sector (game producers, studios, post-production houses). ========================================================== BOOKS OVERVIEW ========================================================== The there applications of DVD are Video, Audio, and ROM. All three discs types are built upon the same physical specification and file structure. Part 3 Video Audio Application Specs Specs Part 2 UDF UDF File system UDF-Bridge (M-UDF + ISO 9660) Format Format Part 1 Physical Physical Physical Physical format Format Format Disc specifications Disc specs Disc specs (Read-Only Disc) Write-once Rewritable Book Book A Book B Book C Book D Book E Read Only Video Audio Write-Once Rewritable Specs Specs Specs Specs Specs Notes: - The DVD Audio (Book C) is expected in Summer 1996. - A blue laser version of the physical books (A, D, E) is expected by the year 2000. Structure of Video Book (Book B): Physical part =============================================== 1. General - scope - general parameters - normative reference - notations - terminologies - abbreviations 2. Disc specifications - disc outline - environmental conditions - measuring conditions - mechanical parameters - optical parameters - recorded parameters - operation signals 3. Information Area Format - track structure - sector structure - modulation method (8/16 Modulation) - Lead-in, Middle and Lead-out Area Structure of Video Book (Book B): File System Part =============================================== 1. General - scope - Normative Reference - Definitions - Notations - Data types of descriptor field 2. Volume Structure - Requirements for DVD-ROM disc - Volume Space - Volume Structure of UDF Bridge Format - UDF Bridge Volume Recognition Sequence - Anchor Point - Volume Descriptor Sequence - Logical Volume Integrity Sequence - CD-ROM Volume Descriptor Set 3. File Structure - Requirements for DVD-ROM disc - UDF File Structure - UDF File Set Descriptor Sequence - UDF Directories - ICB - ISO 9660 Directory Structure and Path Table Structure of Video Book (Book B): Application Part =============================================== 1. General - Scope - General Specifications of Presentation Data - Normative Reference 2. Technical Elements - Definitions - Symbols - Notations - Terminology - Abbreviations 3. Introduction - Logical Structure of DVD Video - Presentation Structure - DVD System Model 4. Navigation Data Structure - Video Manager Information (VMGI) - Video Title Set Information (VTSI) - Program Chain Information (PGCI) - Presentation Control Information (PCI) - Data Search Information (DSI) - Navigation Commands and Navigation Parameters 5. Video Object (VOB) - Contents of VOBs - Pack - Player Reference Model - Presentation Data ========================================================== APPLICATION ========================================================== [Data provided by JVC and Thomson] DVD Presentation Data (summary) =============================== Type Count Representation ------------- --------------------- -------------------------- Video 1 stream only MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 Video Audio maximum of 8 streams Linear PCM and/or: Dolby AC-3 (NTSC) MPEG audio (PAL) Sub-picture max 32 streams Run-length encoded with bitmap of 2 bits/pixel (Specific) relation of other standards ====================================== Video ITU-T H.262/ISO-IEC 13818-2 (MPEG-2 Video) ISO/IEC 11172-2 (MPEG-1 Video) Audio ISO/IEC 13818-3 (MPEG-2 Audio) ISO/IEC 11172-3 (MPEG-1 Audio) Dolby AC-3 standard System ITU-T H.222 / ISO/IEC 13818-1 (MPEG-2 Systems) Program/PES stream only (no Transport streams) Restriction on transfer rate ============================ max total of combined audio and video: 9.8 Mbit/sec max sum of Elementary streams + systems overhead: 10.08 Mbit/sec. Video Data Specifications ========================= DVD adds many additional restrictions to the popular compliance parameter sets of MPEG. One good example is the restriction on the coded size of a picture: MPEG-2 Main Profile @ Main Level allows any coded frame size between 16 and 720 pixels horizontally and 16 and 576 pixels vertically. However, DVD restricts the coded size to a very limited, but practical, subset. In MPEG, audio can be coded at a sample rate of 32, 44.1 or 48 kHz. In DVD, the rates of both Dolby AC-3 and MPEG audio are strictly 48 kHz. MPEG is a generic representation meant for a wide variety of applications. DVD has taken a practical subset to promote interoperability by simplifying implementations and insuring features (such as random accessibility). Coded representation: MPEG-1 (SIF combo) MPEG-2 (Main Profile @ Main Level) Frame rate: 29.97 or 25 Hz TV system: 525/60 or 625/50 Aspect ratio: 4:3 (all video formats) 16:9 (all formats except 352 pixels/line) Display Mode: pan & scan, letterbox User_data: closed caption Coded frame sizes: 525/60: 720x480, 704x480, 352x480, 352x240 625/50: 720x576, 704x576, 352x576, 352x288 (MPEG-1 is allowed only in 352x240 or 352x288 res). GOP size: max 36 fields or 18 frames (NTSC) max 30 fields or 15 frames (PAL) Maximum distance 3 (i.e. IBBPBBPBBP...) between reference frames Buffer size: 1.8535008 Mbits (MPEG-2) max 327689 bits (MPEG-1) Transfer method: VBR, CBR (MPEG-2), only CBR for MPEG-1 Maximum bitrate: 9.8 Mbit/sec Low_delay NOT permitted !!!! Notes [my reflections]: - the frame rate is the intended display frame rate. The number of coded frames in a sequence may vary due to 3:2 pulldown (the DVD MPEG decoder performs this function). The permitted values in DVD are more restrictive than MPEG-2 MP@ML which includes 23.976, 24, and 30 frames/sec rates. - aspect ratio is the display aspect ratio. Only 16:9 and 4:3 are permitted. Note: MP@ML's 2.21:1 is not included. - MP@ML has no GOP size restriction. In fact, the GOP() is considered to be an insignificant layer in MPEG-2. Instead the sequence() layer serves as the most important boundary. - The M<=3 (reference frame distance) restriction is additional over MP@ML. This distance is arbitrary, in the general MPEG syntax and currently defined Profiles and Levels combinations. - The MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 vbv_buffer_size limits are the same as MP@ML and Constrained Parameters Bitstreams, respectively. - The maximum bitrate of 9.8 Mbit/sec is more restrictive than MP@ML's 15 Mbit/sec limit. However, the point of diminishing returns (no visual difference between original video and compressed video) is reached by 9 Mbit/sec anyway. - user_data() fields in MPEG video picture headers contain closed captioning (similar to Grand Alliance and DVB methods). See this site for more information: http://www.atsc.org/ - For picture sizes, only a very limited set of coded dimensions are legal. - Variable bit rate is permitted only in MPEG-2 streams since the VBV model in MPEG-2 has provisions for it. - contrary to popular belief: all DVD players are required to decode video streams up to 9.8 Mbit/sec for indefinite periods of time. The popular average rate of 3.5 Mbit/sec or 4.7 Mbit/sec is merely canonical figures. ALL DVD PLAYERS MUST SUSTAIN A 9.8 MBIT/SEC VIDEO DECODE RATE!!!!!!! MPEG Display Formats ==================== MPEG-2 video decoder chips have implemented pan & scan for a few years already since it has been a requirement for cable TV and direct broadcast satellite. The letterbox (vertical filter) requirement is a relatively new addition. The DVD generation of MPEG-2 video decoders will probably also perform sub-picture reconstruction. Display Aspect Ratio 4:3 16:9 4:3 No conversion horizontal filtering Source accomplished by TV monitor. Aspect Ratio 16:9 letterbox No conversion (vertical filter) - or - Pan & Scan Note: Letterbox Conversion is a mandatory feature in the DVD Player !!! Subpictures =============================== - run-length compressed bitmaps that are overlayed ontop of the MPEG reconstructed video. - Applications include: Menus, sub-titles, karaoke, and simple animation. - Pixels are divided into four types: 1. background 2. Foregound 3. Empahsis-1 4. Emphasis-2 - 4 colors out of 16 color palette (4 colors are determined once per PGC). - 4 out of 16 contrast values - up to a maximum of 32 sub-picture bitstreams. Each subpicture stream could, for example, could contain text from a particular language. - subpicture buffer size is restricted to 62 Kbytes. This means a maximum of 62 KB per GOP/cell. 32 Kbytes of this is control data. - Maximum number of bits per run-length coded line is 1440 bits. - Display area maximum: 720x480 (525/60) and 720x576 (625/50) - area, content, color, and contrast can be changed every video field - Sub-Picture Display Control Sequences (SP_DCSQ) control the presentation of Sub-pictures. - Presentation effects include: scroll up/down, fade in/out, etc. Structure of Sub-picture Decoding Unit (SPU): [ SPUH ][ PXD ][ DCSQT ] SPUH: Sub-picture Unit Header (size of SPU, start address of DCSQT) PXD: Pixel Data (variable length run-length coded) DCSQT: Display Control Sequence Table (one or more display control command sequences). DCSQT: [DCSQ 0][DCSQ 1][DCSQ 2] ... [DCSQ n] DCSQ: [Start time] [ Pointer to next DCSQ] [Command Sequence] Command Sequence: [DCC 0][DCC 1]... [DCC m] Display Control Commands (DCC): - Set start address in PXD - Set colors - Set contrast - Set SP screen position - Start/stop display - Set CHG_COLCON areas. VBI Decoding ============ The Vertical Blanking Interval (VBI) packet (multiplexed at the Cell level along with Navigation, Video, and Audio packets) contains information which is directly inserted into the reconstructed video signal, sans level adjustments (16 levels into a, e.g. 256 level video signal). - only 1 VBI channel per program (sub-pictures have up to 32) - Line range is from 10 to 23 NTSC and 6 to 23.5 for PAL. - Separate palette (16 Y values, Cr=Cb=128) from subpictures. - No highlight - Restricted DCSQ command set VBI information is losslessly represented as a waveform, and coded into packets. A far more bandwidth efficient alternative is to transmit the source character stream in the MPEG video user_data() field, and then have the NTSC/PAL modulator chip create the VBI signal from the character stream. This brings our tally of closed caption representations to THREE ways!! 1. as packets of 16-level sampled VBI waveforms. 2. as user_data() character streams. 3. as rendered subpictures. Picture Size Conversion ======================= All DVD players are required to have built-in vertical filters which scale a 16:9 coded video image onto a 4:3 display. This player feature is needed since it is anticipated that a majority of movies will be coded for the 16:9 aspect ratio, while at the same time most TV displays (in the early years) will be 4:3. 525/60 (NTSC-rate display): (Note: 480*(4/3)/(16/9) = 480*0.75 = 360) _____________________ | 60 | |---------------------| | | | 360 | 480 lines total | | |---------------------| | 60 | ----------------------- 625/50 (PAL-rate display): _____________________ | 72 | |---------------------| | | | 432 | 576 lines total | | |---------------------| | 72 | ----------------------- A simple bi-linear vertical filter can be applied, yielding good visual results. Here, two source samples (s[n],s[n+1]) are weighted by simple complementary factors and added together to form the destination sample value (d[m]). These weights are easily implemented with shifters. For interlaced displays, vertical filtering occurs only within the same field parity. d[0] = (3/4)*s[0] + (1/4)*s[1] d[1] = (1/2)*s[1] + (1/2)*s[2] d[2] = (1/4)*s[2] + (3/4)*s[3] Audio data specifications ========================= Linear PCM Dolby AC-3 MPEG-2 audio Sampling frequency 48 or 96 kHz 48 kHz 48 kHz Number of bits per sample 16/20/24 compressed compressed (16 bits) (16 bits) Max transfer rate 6.144 Mbit/sec 448 kbits/sec 640 kbits/sec Max Number of channels 8 5.1 5.1 or 7.1 NTSC PAL Mandatory Dolby AC-3 MPEG-2 audio and/or Linear PCM and/or Linear PCM Optional MPEG-2 Audio Dolby AC-3 ============================================================= Philips' provided three practical scenarios for audio. Case 1: One mono language channel to be mixed with the Center multichannel set. Use Channels kbits/sec Multichannel music & effects 5.1 or 7.1 384 Mono English dialogue 1 64 Mono French dialogue 1 64 Mono German dialogue 1 64 Case 2: One of the stereo lingual signals mixed with the L & R channel of the playback multichannel set. Multichannel music & effects 5.1 or 7.1 384 Mono English dialogue 2 128 Mono French dialogue 2 128 Mono German dialogue 2 128 Case 3: One to be selected for playback. Multichannel with English dialogue 5.1 or 7.1 384 Multichannel with French dialogue 5.1 or 7.1 384 Multichannel with German dialogue 5.1 or 7.1 384 Audio Signal Decoding System ============================= General ======= - up to a maximum of 8 audio streams can be multiplexed into the same cell with a single video stream. Each stream for example is designated for a particular language or special effects & music tracks. - Dolby AC-3 used mandatory for 525/60 (NTSC) players and MPEG-2 is mandatory for 625/50 (PAL) players, but optional on discs themselves. - LPCM (Linear Pulse Code Modulated) is mandatory for all players, but optional on discs themselves. - 48 kHz and 96 kHz uncompressed PCM audio - High Definition Audio Experience - A 525/60 disc must contain either Dolby AC-3 or LPCM. A 625/50 disc must contain either MPEG-2 audio or LPCM. Due to bandwidth efficiency, most titles will use the more compact Dolby AC-3 or MPEG-2 audio. - Extendibility is reserved for new algorithms such as DTS, Sony SDDS, et al. - IEC-958 Digital Audio Interface for external decoder/receiver. Output types: compressed AC-3 or MPEG stream, two channel LPCM. DVD players are required only to output a full reconstruction of the Left and Right channels. An external AC-3 decoder would optionally decode all 5.1 channels. A more expensive DVD player would output all 5.1 reconstructed channels. Dolby AC-3 parameters ==================== Sampling frequency: 48 kHz bitrate: 64 kbits/sec to 448 kbits/sec per stream Audio coding mode 1/0, 2/0, 3/0, 2/1, 2/2, 3/1, and 3/2 (acmod) Characteristics: - dialog normalization - dynamic range compression - downmixing (5.1 -> 2 channel) capability - Dolby Pro-Logic Encoding (5.1 -> 2 channel) - Karaoke mode (voice overlay) MPEG Audio parameters ===================== Sampling frequency: 48 kHz only MPEG-1: Layer II only Mono (32 to 192 kb/s) and Stereo (64 to 384 kb/s) MPEG-2: - main stream (same as MPEG-1) - extension stream (up to 528 kbit/sec) - sum of main and extension stream up to 912 kb/s - unmatrix mode excluded (always MPEG-1 compatible) LPCM Coding =========== - Lossless/uncompressed PCM audio - Sampling frequency: either 48 kHz or 96 kHz - bits/sample: 16, 20, or 24 bits - up to 8 PCM channels. Due to the user rate bandwidth limitation of 6.144 Mbit/sec for LPCM audio, not all combinations of channel count, sample precision and sample rates are permitted: Sample Sample Channel Count Rate Prec. 48 kHz Mono 2 CH 5 CH 8 CH 16 Yes Yes Yes Yes 20 Yes Yes Yes No 24 Yes Yes Yes No 96 kHz 16 Yes Yes No No 20 Yes Yes No No 24 Yes Yes No No =============================================================== [data from Mitsubishi] DVD Feature Functions ===================== 1. Multiple titles on one disc 2. Seamless playback transitions 2.1 multiple versions of language credits 2.2 director's cut (Parental lock) 2.3 multiple version based on camera angles 3. Multi-Language System (audio, closed caption, et al) 4. Navigation System 5. Multi Screen Aspect Ratio (16:9, 4:3, letterboxed, pan&scan) 6. Multi Sound system (5.1 or 7.1 channels) maximum program_mux_rate: 10.08 Mbit/sec Audio streams are multiplexed with video. So, alternative audio tracts beyond the limitation of 8 must be multiplexed with a different video stream. Source: Pioneer Title: Interactive functions ============================== Basic User interface: - Control: ten keys and cursor keys - Display: menu graphics and high-light GUI Display: - Menu picture with subpicture and MPEG graphics - highlighted area Menu: Basic 1. Title A 2. Title B 3. Title C 4. Previous 5. next Multi-page Menu 1. Title A 4. Title D 7. Title G 2. Title B 5. Title E 8. Title H 3. Title C 6. Title F 9. Title I Exit Next Prev Exit Next Prev Exit Interactivity ============= Level of functionality 1. simply play 2. interactivity similar to Video-CD 3. Interactivity simular to PC Applications Functions ========= Information Control - parental control - copy management Menu - Title: sub-picture - Root: Angle - Audio: part of title Search functions: - program search - time search - angle search - part of title search Seamless play function Still picture function File Structure Hierarchy ========================= The DVD is broken into two separate types of information: Navigation Data (control) and Presentation (object) data. Control data acts as pointers (like an operating system's File Allocation Table) to the actual video and audio object data on the disc. Control data can be expressed as a series of nested layers: Title distinguishes multiple movies or TV episodes on one disc. Each title is one of two types: a single program chain (One_Sequential_PGC_Title) or a collection of different program chains (Multi_PGC_Title). Program Chain A collection of programs with a particular theme in common. Part_of_Title Links to one or more Program (PG) units on the disc. Like PGC, this mechanism can be used to create different versions (camera angle, ratings, outcomes, etc.) of the same program chain. POTs can also be used to mark scenes. Program Usually a scene. Consists of multiple cells. Cell Preceded by a navigation packet, and alternating video and audio packets. A cell is typically all the video and audio data associated with an integer number of a group of pictures. VOBU Video Object Unit: "typically" a group of pictures (GOP) GOP 1. smallest granularity of random access on disc (Group of pictures being with a coded Intra frame) 2. largest interframe dependent coding unit. (Interframe compression is bounded within a GOP) Usually 15 coded frames of data (0.5 seconds display duration). Packet DVD packets are 2048 bytes (sector payload size) large. As per MPEG-2 PES/Program streams, they contain data from only one data type (video, audio, etc.) NAV packet contains the optional Buttom-Command defining the playback behaviour of the cell. 1. Logical structure of Video Manager and Video Title Set [notes from Hitachi] ========================================================= A DVD may contain up to 99 different titles, each with an initial Navigation Menu allowing the user to select among different versions of the title. The root menu which branches to all titles on the disc originates with the Video Manager. Each title is organized as a Video Tile Set (VTS). DVD: [VM][VTS #1][VTS #2] ..... [VTS #n] where n<=99 The VM's VMGI includes: Attributes for the Menu, Tile Search Pointers, and the PCGI for the Menu. VM: [VMGI][VOBS for Menu][Back up for VMGI] The Control Data (VTSI) for the title (VTS) includes: attributes for Menu, Attributes for Title, Part of Title Search Pointer, Time Map Table, PGCI for Menu, and PGCI for Title. The Video Objects (VOBS) contain the actual program chains, Part_of_Tiles, programs, and so forth. VTS: [VTSI][VOBS for Menu][VOBS for Title][Back up for VTSI] Legend: VM Video Manager: sets up menus for a series of titles (1 through n) VTS Video Tile Set: a collection of video objects. VMGI Video Manager Information: VOBS Video Object Set PGCI Program Chain Information Structure of Title ================== A title begins with the entry program chain (Entry PGC). It can branch to a single program chain (One_Sequential_PGC_Title) or multiple program chains (Multi_PGC_Title). The location of the branch is determined by the link condition. Structure of a Program Chain (PGC) ================================== The program chain is broken into two separate entities: - program control information (PGCI) - video object (VOB) The PGCI defines the playback order of Programs by acting as a table of addresses which point to the sector locations of the program cells on the DVD. A program cell is essentially a group of pictures (GOP), spanning multiple sectors, and contains the actual interleaved packets of compressed bits for video and audio data. Part_of_Title (PTT) =================== The Part_of_Title divides a title in a maximum of 99 different pieces. The intent of the PTT is aid in the construction of multiple versions of the same title. One_Sequential_PCG_Title: The Part_of_Title and Program numbers are synchronized. [ PTT #1 | PTT #2 | .... | PTT #n ] Part_of_Title [ [PG #1] | [PG #2] | .... | [PG #n] ] Program Chain (PGC) Multi_PGC_Title: branch PTT #2 --> [PG #1] (PGC1) PTT #3 PTT #m PTT #1 --> [PG #1] [PG #j] ... [PG #k] (PGC2) [PG #1] --> [PG #1] (PGC3) Presentation of PGC =================== The program chain (PGC) can be presented either serially (linear) or in random/shuffle (non-linear) fashion. For example, a quiz title should break each question into separate programmes. The next program chain branched to would be determined by the answered provided by the user. Still ===== Still pictures are coded as MPEG intra frames. They may be displayed for indefinite duration. They can be accompanied by background music, or total audio mute. - still function is created by the action of the navigation system - The same video frame and sub-picture is frozen (displayed over and over again on the TV) while audio is or playing in background. There are three types of the Still Function: Type Timing Still time in seconds PGC Still Stills at end of the PGC 0-254, limitless Cell Still Stills at end of the Cell 0-254, limitless VOBU Still Stills in every VOBU in the Cell limitless VOBU: Video Object Unit. Search Functions by User ======================== There are 6 search functions defined for DVD. Two are present in most of today's VCRs: the linear style Time Search and Scan (Fast forward, rewind). The other 4 are made possible thanks to the non-linear, random-access playback capability of DVD. User operation (ability to scan through or play) can be prohibited by content, identified by such attributes as the parental control level. For example, certain Part_of_Title's can be skipped over which contain R-rated (US) scenes. Title User can select the exact title to shuttle to. Search: Part_of_Title User can go to specific version (PG-13, R, Search: directors cut, children's version) or camera angle by either title name or number. Program User can go to a specific scene (car chase, opening Search: credits, gun fight, etc.) within a program chain. Time User can go to a specific SMPTE style time code Search: (HH:MM:SS:FF) location within a program chain. Scan: Scan (linearly) forward or backwards in time. GoUp: Within the current program chain, jump to the next program chain. This command traverses the DVD control information hierarchy. For Time Searches, all DVD players are required to arrive to the nearest I picture. It is optional that DVD players be capable of arriving at the exact picture (regardless of its picturing coding type). Navigation Commands and Parameters ================================== The author (content provider) is given the freedom of creating an arbitrary branching structure for a given title. Of course some restraint should be exercised since, thanks to interframe MPEG coding dependencies and physical servo mechanism limitations, a program chain cannot be constructed of 30 pictures/sec of totally randomly located information on the disc. However, the constant DVD transfer rate of 11 Mbit/sec provides some flexibility when the average program rate is kept lower. For example, if the average bit rate is only 5 Mbit/sec, then the player can waste 6 Mbit/sec of potential transfer rate in random access overhead. Player Settings: There are 24 system parameters for player setting: SPRM Meaning ---- ----------------------------------------------------------------- 0 Menu Description Language Code 1 Audio stream number 2 Sub-picture Stream number 3 Angle Number 4 Title Number 5 VTS title Number 6 Title PGC Number 7 Part of title number for one sequential_PGC_Title 8 Highlighed Buttom number 9 Navigation Timer 10 Title PGC number for Navigation Timer 11 Audio Mixing Mode for Karaoke 12 Country Code for Parental Management 13 Parental Level 14 Player Configuration for Video 15 Player Configuration for Audio 16 Initial Language Code for Audio 17 Initial Language Code for Sub-picture 18 Initial Language Code Extension for Sub-picture 19 Initial Language Code for Sub-picture 20 Reserved 21 Reserved 22 Reserved 23 Reserved General Parameters: Used for interactive operation of titles, such as quizzes, or games. - 16 general parameters for navigation. These are RAM variables in the DVD players for use as, e.g., arithmetic scratch pads, counters, etc. - Arithmetical operations are available (add, compare, etc.) Navigation Commands =================== - Each command consists of a single instruction or a combination of two or three instructions. Instruction Groups: Goto branch between command Link transfer between same Domain Jump transfer between each Domain Compare recognition of parameter value SetSystem player system setting Set calculate GPRM values Location of each command ======================== Within a program chain (PGC), commands can be located at the front of the chain, in between cells of the chain, and at the end of the chain. Program chain [Pre-Commands] [Cell] [Cell] [Cell-Command] [Cell] [Post-Commands] Each cell can have one command. There is a restriction that no more than 128 commands can be contained within a program chain: Pre-commands + Cell Commands + Post Commands <= 128 Further, there are a maximum of 36 buttons, each of which can have one associated command. Example of a PGC transition =========================== [taken from the Hitachi overheads] 3 quiz problems are presented to the user. Each quiz problem/question is coded as a separate program chain. One of the questions prompts the user for a "Yes" or "No" answer. The Link command is used to branch from the original top-level menu to one of the three program chains. The Set Command is used to tally a score. Finally, the CompareLink command (which consist of two commands, Compare & Link) branches to a particular Program depending on the user's answer. ========================================================== FILE SYSTEM ========================================================== Directory Structure =================== File directory is based on ISO 9660 and the micro Universal Disk Format Specification (M-UDF). The latest UDF specification (November 3, 1995) can be obtained from: Optical Storage Technology Association 311 East Carrillo Street Santa Barbara, CA 93101 USA Voice: +1 805 963 3853 Fax: +1 805 962 1541 E-mail: os...@aol.com Root --------------------------------------------------- | | | Video_TS Audio_TS Provider defined | | | | - Video_TS.INF (Video Manager Information) | - Video_TS.VOB (Video Manager Menu) | - Video_TS.BUP (Video Manager Information) | | - TITLE_A.INF (Video Title Set Information) | - TITLE_A0.INF (Video Title Set Menu) | - TITLE_A1.VOB (Video Title Set Title) | - TITLE_A2.VOB (Video Title Set Title) | - TITLE_A.BUP (Video Title Set Information) Layout of Volume ================ Lead-in Data Recorded Area Lead Out ISO9660&M-UDF File 0 File 1 Disc Type and Capacity ====================== Single layer Dual layer Single layer Dual Layer Single sided Single sided Double sided Double sided 12 cm 4.7 8.5 9.4 17 8 cm 1.4 2.6 2.9 5.3 Recordable time on a disc scenarios: ==================================== Avg. Minutes rate SL/SS DL/SS SL/DS DL/DS Movie 4.8 130 236 259 472 Video 3.5 Audio (AC-3 3 lang) Sub-picture 4 Karaoke 4.0 155 282 310 564 Video 3.5 Audio (AC-3 1 lang) Sub-picture 1 Video Clip A 5.2 120 218 340 436 Video 3.5 Audio (2 ch. PCM) Sub-picture Video Clip B 8.8 71 129 142 258 Video 7.0 Audio (2 ch. PCM) Sub-picture Video Clip C 8.4 75 136 149 272 Video 3.5 Audio Sub-picture ========================================================== PHYSICAL ========================================================== Physical specifications: =============================================== Toshiba provided the following table: 12 cm disc 8 cm disc User Data Capacity Single Layer 4.7 GByte 1.4 GByte Dual Layer 8.5 GByte 2.6 GByte Pit Length (minimum) 0.4 microns Track pitch 0.74 microns recording modulation 8/16 sector size 2048 bytes error correction reed-soloman product code: code RS(208,192,17) x RS (182, 172, 11) ECC Constraint 16 Sectors (=32 Kbytes) Length Further physical specs ====================== Spiral direction clockwise Comparing DVD and CD [Mitsubishi data] ================================================= Units DVD CD Outer diameter millimeters 120 120 Thickness of substrate millimeters 0.6 1.2 track pitch microns 0.74 1.6 min. pit length microns 0.40 SL 0.834 - 0.97 0.44 DL wavelength nanometers 650 780 Numerical Aperture of N/A 0.60 0.45 Objective Lens Error correction N/A RS Product RS 8-bit code Code Error correction percentage 13 25 overhead Data capacity Gigabytes 4.7, 8.5, 0.65 (CD-ROM) 9.4, or 17 0.80 (CD Music) Channel modulation N/A 8/16 8/17 Data bit rate (1X) Mbit/sec 11.08 1.44 Reference scanning meters/sec 3.49 SL, 1.2 to 1.4 velocity 3.84 DL Reflectivity percentage 70 min SL 70 min 25 to 40 DL Thickness of spacing microns 40 - 70 N/A Layer in Dual Layer Spot Size lambda/NA 0.63 1 Focus Depth lambda/NA^2 0.47 1 (Focus Margin) Comatic Aberration lambda/NA^3 0.35 1 (Title margin) Spherical Aberration lambda/NA^4 0.26 1 (Thickness Tolerance) Note: the minimum pit length for Double layer is 10% greater, hence the 10% less dense figure for Dual layer discs. more Toshiba data... Disc specifications: =============================================== 8 cm 12 cm outer diameter: 80 mm 120 mm outer data diameter: 76 mm 116 mm inner data diameter: 48 mm 48 mm Track pitch: 0.74 microns (same as Toshiba original proposal) Pit length: Min: 0.4 micron (same as Toshiba original proposal) Max: 2.13 micron to 1.87 micron Scanning velocity: 3.49 m/sec Channel bitrate: 26.16 Mbit/sec User data bit rate: 11.08 Mbit/sec Recording order on the disc (Track Structure) =============================================== Legend: I Lead-in area (leader space near edge of disc) D Data area (contains actual data) O Lead-out area (leader space near edge of disc) X un-usable area (edge or donut hole) M Middle area (interlayer lead-in/out) B Dummy bonded layer (to make disc 1.2 mm thick instead of 0.6mm) Single layer disc: direction: continuous spiral from inside to outside of disc. | -----------------------> |BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB outer edge |XXIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOXX of disc | reference axis Dual layer disc: (A) Parallel track path (for computer CD-ROM use) Direction: same for both layers. -----------------------> XXIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOXX Layer 1 XXIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOXX Layer 0 -----------------------> (B) Opposite track path (for movies) Direction: opposite directions Since the reference beam and angular velocities are the same at the layer transition point, the delay comes from refocusing. This permits seamless transition for movie playback. <---------------------- XXOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDMMMXX Layer 1 XXIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDMMMXX Layer 0 -----------------------> Data Sector Configuration ========================= From the original Toshiba DVD proposal (circa Spring 1995), the following three items changed: - sector information in ID - EDC Generation Method - Initial Value of Main Data Scrambling The 2064 byte sector is, for purposes of error correction, organized into 12 separate rows, each with 172 bytes. The first row starts with the 12 Byte sector header (ID, IEC, Reserved bytes), followed by the remaining data bytes. The following 10 rows contain only data. The final row is punctuated with a 4 Byte field (EDC). Row Fields within row --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 ID (4B) IEC (2B) RESERVED (6B) Main data (160 Bytes: D[0] - D[159]) 1 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[ 160] - D[ 331]) 2 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[ 332] - D[ 503]) 3 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[ 504] - D[ 675]) 4 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[ 676] - D[ 847]) 5 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[ 848] - D[1019]) 6 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[1020] - D[1191]) 7 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[1192] - D[1363]) 8 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[1364] - D[1535]) 9 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[1536] - D[1707]) 10 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[1708] - D[1879]) 11 Main Data (172 Bytes: D[1880] - D[2047]) EDC (4B) ID: Identification Data (32-bit sector number) IEC: ID Error Correction EDC: Error Detection Code EEC Block Configuration ======================= To combat bursty errors characteristic of CD-ROM, 16 sectors are further interleaved together, forming a block of 192 rows (16 sectors * 12 rows/sector = 192 rows). Error correction bytes are concatenated to the data block in a 2-dimensional fashion (hence the term "product" in the phrase "Reed-Soloman product codes"). Specifically: at the end of each row, 10 bytes of RS data is added (hence the RS(182,172,11) vector. At the end of the block, 16 rows of RS data is added (hence the RS(208,192,17) vector). Therefore out of 37,856 total bytes (182*208) for the interleaved block of data, 33,024 bytes (192*172) or roughly 87% is payload. <----- data block -----------> <---------- P1 --------------> D B[ 0][ 0] ... B[ 0][171] | B[ 0][172] .... B[ 0][181] a B[ 1][ 0] ... B[ 1][171] | B[ 1][172] .... B[ 1][181] t . | a . | . | B[190][ 0] ... B[190][171] | B[190][172] .... B[190][181] B[191][ 0] ... B[191][171] | B[191][172] .... B[191][181] -------------------------------------------------------------- B[192][ 0] ... B[192][171] | B[192][172] .... B[192][181] . P . 0 . B[207][ 0] ... B[207][171] | B[207][172] .... B[207][181] P0: RS(182, 172, 11) P1: RS(208, 192, 17) 8/16 Modulation =============== The lowest layer of the communications channel is the 8/16 channel code, which helps reduce DC energy and lower the SNR threshold for the pickup signal. Although half the channel rate is doubled thanks to the 8/16 code, the overall user throughput for the desired uncorrected rate of 1x10^-3 is greater because of it. The advantage of the 8/16 code is: - Small DC component (no long run lengths of 1's or 0's) - Applicable RAM - Simple decoding circuits From 16 channel bits, 8 user data bits are produced. ============================================================= Source: Nimbus Title: Disc Manufacturing Technology and Equipment DVD Laser Beam Recorder - with respect to CD, DVD only requires changes to recorder mask. - Ultra violet laser, argon ion - Wavelength of 351 nanometres - c.5000 hours lifetime - final objective lens, n.a. 0.9 - secondary focusing - aperture for CD mastering - spot beam focus checker is mot critical part. - yield rate for DVD (SS/SL): 90% Operation in DVD or CD mode - Identical glass preparation and chemicals - universal lenses - switchable aperture - secondary focusing - elliptical spot for CD mastering Elliptical spot: - reduces resolution across track - maintains DVD resolution along track to improve control of pit ends. Production: - 200 - 300 master titles per month - 1.2 - 1.5 million stamped discs per month ======================================================= Notes from Hitachi Flow of Data in player: Stage 1: SYNC detection, 8/16 Demodulation, ID Detection A total of 8 sync codes are inserted into the 8/16 modulated channel bitstream representing the current physical sector. Sync code words are unique in the 8/16 code table (so they cannot be generated by the 8-to-16 mapping). Detection looks for sync codes in order to determine where sectors begin and end. Here the channel bit rate input to this block is 26.16 Mbits/sec, and output is 13 Mbit/sec. Stage 2: Error detection and correction If the check bits (EDC) don't match the fingerprint of the unscrambled data, the Reed Soloman bytes (IEC) are used to attempt error correction of the corrupted data. Here the channel rate output by this block is 11 Mbit/sec (2 Mbit/sec of error correction parity data, IEC, has been stripped). Stage 3: Descramble Data on the disc is descrambled for purposes of copy protection. Stage 4: EDC Check The fingerprint of the unscrambled data is checked against the EDC code to verify whether the data was correctly descrambled. Stage 5: Track buffer This FIFO maps the constant user data bit rate of 11.08 Mbit/sec to the variable bit rate (Max mux rate 10.08 Mbit/sec) of the program streams. Stage 6: Transfer to MPEG system decoder. Track Buffer ============ The size of the track buffer is left to the implementation, although the minimum recommended size is 2 Mbit. This is computed as: B > Tmax * VBRmax = 0.104 sec * 10.08 Mbit/sec Tmax is the maximum latency of one disc revolution, and VBRmax is the maximum mux rate for any Program. In some systems, the Track Buffer and the MPEG STD/VBV (System Target Decoder/Video Buffer Verifier) are combined. Seamless playback illustration ============================== Input stream to Track Buffer: Time ----> n: sector number |<------- T --------->| [n-3][n-2][n-1][ n] ... track jump ... [m ][m+1][m+2][m+3][etc.] (no data transfer during discontinuity) Corresponding output from Track Buffer: Initial buffer delay introduced by track buffer |<--------->| [n-3][n-2][n-1][ n][m ][m+1][m+2][m+3][etc.] ^^ no apparent discontinuity from perspective of MPEG Systems decoder. The memory size needed for seamless playback control can be computed as: T * VBR = 0.25 seconds * 8 Mbit/sec = 2 Mbits This is of course implementation-dependent. T here is the maximum jump distance (10,000 sectors). Labeling information [from Warner Advanced Media Operations] ================================================================= Labeling can be similar to standard CD labels or one of three new types: - Reverse Printing: underside of blank 0.6mm clear substrate provides unique wet look and additional protection - Mastered in Graphics: by transferring images directly to the glass master ensuring 100% yield. - Laser Scribed Titles: on stampers, Image added right at press. DVD Doubled Sided Disc Label solution: - the inner radius of DVD is smaller than regular CD's (to improve areal utilization of disc, hence capacity). This favors the outer edge. - labels are printed along outer 5mm edge of disc. Label Angular arc size -------------------------- -------------------- Movie Title Information: 217 degrees Disc ID Code: 57 degrees Side: 25 degrees Company: 29 degrees Gaps between above labels: 8 degrees x 4 gaps ========================================================== Hollywood Panel Discussion ========================================================== Executive leaders from the home video branches of MGM, MCA, Warner, Columbia, Turner (New Line Cinema) and Tri-Star were present. The three primary issues for them are: 1. Availability of Software: getting titles mastered and pressed to entice people to buy DVD players. Most executives on the panel felt that new titles should be in the $20 range, and that "fully amortized" titles (read: talent already received and spent their money) will allow studios to resell their vast libraries. Only one executive felt his studio will market new titles at higher prices----in the $60 range. These older libraries will be priced lower ($10 ?) in order to attract hardware purchases. The idea is to convince DVD owners to own their own libraries rather than rent. 2. Timing of releases around world: studios feel they do not want American titles to be played on European players since the release dates of video (and cinema for that matter) differ around the world for political and logistical (seasons, holidays) reasons. Region Codes would become the mechanism. 3. Copy protection: studios feel that closure on this heated issue is expected within weeks. - currently only Disney, Paramount (Blockbuster), and Fox have yet to announce DVD policies. - It is hoped that DVD will simulate the US music video market, where VHS has clearly proven not to be the format. ----- End of notes cf...@chromatic.com
From: cr...@pcube.com (Craig Birkmaier) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/07 Message-ID: <craig-0705960841490001@ppp-gnv-fl-009.atlantic.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 153492728 references: <4mhgm0$lnr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <96050509322300640@portal.ca> organization: PCUBE Labs newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc A general response to this thread. The correct answer is to encode all source material in its' original aspect ratio and let the end-user decide on the way it should be presented on their display. I wrote a series of articles in Videography related to this and have presented papers at SMPTE on this subject. This work will be introduced into standards groups as we begin to develop the enabling standards for an open architecture digital television system. MPEG is very flexible and it includes everything that is needed to support all source material acquired in all aspect ratios. -- Craig Birkmaier PCUBE Labs Exploring the Convergence of Video, Computing and Telecommunications
From: Louis <lou...@mnsinc.com> Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/03 Message-ID: <318A320C.43@mnsinc.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 152894441 references: <31879E4C.6D8C@engr05.comsys.rockwell.com> <96050115144100617@portal.ca> <robertwDqsxns.6sD@netcom.com> <4mbsfc$33j@alpha.pcix.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Monumental Network Systems mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: lou...@mnsinc.com newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Here's my shot in the dark (it's speculative and based on logic. Of course, it will probably be made very obvious that basing speculation on logic is an inaccurate way to model your worldview): It seems that the data contained on a DVD should be made primarily of the following: (1) Enough data to fill a 16:9 television screen from corner to corner at x lines of horizontal resolution with y frames per second. (Where x ought to be as high as possible). (2) A data stream which would tell a decoder (a.k.a. DVD machine) to decode a rectangle of ratio 4:3 of height a and width b at location c for each frame when decoding for pan and scan on a standard TV. (3) A data stream which would tell a decoder (a.k.a. DVD machine) to decode a rectangle of ratio 16:9 of height g and width h at location i for each frame when decoding for pan and scan on a widescreen TV. For movies which were shot for 16:9, g and h would represent the entire frame. ------------ If the movie was shot in an aspect ratio greater than 16:9, Number 1 above should include a black field at the top and a black field at the bottom of each frame. If the movie was shot in an aspect ratio smaller than 16:9, Number 1 above should include a black field at the left and a black field at the right of each frame. When in 4:3 letterbox mode, the DVD machine should by default impose a black field at the top and at the bottom, sandwiching the entire contents of Number 1 above between them (whether Number 1 contains its own letterboxing or not). When in 16:9 letterbox mode, the DVD machine should by default simply read and display Number 1 above. In its entireity. When in 4:3 P&S mode, the DVD machine would read Number 2 above and impose it on Number 1. When in 16:9 P&S mode, the DVD machine would read Number 3 above and impose it on Number 1. --------- By going with the above scheme, there would only be need to put the actual movie picture data on the disc ONCE. P&S and letterboxed versions would be supported for both TV types for all movies. So the big deterrent to doing this would be if it posed insurmountable number-crunching problems (that is, if processors couldn't handle the data stream conversions on the fly). -------- Is this the way DVD is designed to work????????? If not, how is it designed? Are there actually supposed to be 2 (or 4?!?!?) digitizations of the movie on each disc?--one for each format? On its face, that seems insane. -------- If my "logical" scheme is what's actually to be the case (DOUBTFUL), then the only real issue here is this: Will the software manufacturers actually do the letterboxing of 2.35:1 movies into the 16:9 digitization, or will they crop? -------- Please, somebody who knows, respond with the actual answer to the question of whether my "logical" scheme is true or whether the "insane" scheme is true or whether something else entirely is true. -Louis J. Cassorla
From: Gordon Mulcaster <gor...@portal.ca> Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/04 Message-ID: <96050411133400631@portal.ca>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 153021061 references: <318A320C.43@mnsinc.com> organization: Megadodo Publishing, Megadodo House, Ursa Minor reply-to: gor...@portal.ca newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc In article <318A3...@mnsinc.com>, Louis writes: [Stuff Cut] > Is this the way DVD is designed to work????????? > > If not, how is it designed? Are there actually supposed to be 2 (or > 4?!?!?) digitizations of the movie on each disc?--one for each format? > On its face, that seems insane. Yes, the 16:9 image will be stored on the disc, with information for panning and scanning the 4:3 image from that information. > If my "logical" scheme is what's actually to be the case (DOUBTFUL), > then the only real issue here is this: > > Will the software manufacturers actually do the letterboxing of 2.35:1 > movies into the 16:9 digitization, or will they crop? That's my question. And I don't believe they will be letterboxing... (John Q "VHS" Public doesn't like letterboxing) -- "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."--sp...@cs.purdue.edu (1992) gor...@portal.ca
From: alens...@aol.com (AlenSmithe) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/05 Message-ID: <4mhgm0$lnr@newsbf02.news.aol.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 153082395 sender: ro...@newsbf02.news.aol.com references: <96050411133400631@portal.ca> organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) reply-to: alens...@aol.com (AlenSmithe) newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc >>That's my question. And I don't believe they will be letterboxing... (John Q "VHS" Public doesn't like letterboxing) Well I thought that the whole big thing about DVD was to be able to switch to pan and scan if you don't like letterboxing! The same people who don't like letterboxing aren't bothered by the onscreen logos on cable channels that stay on all the time!
From: way...@hom.net (Wayne Bundrick) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/07 Message-ID: <4mmkp9$ci5@homenet.hom.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 153431370 references: <96050411133400631@portal.ca> <4mhgm0$lnr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII organization: Organization? mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: way...@hom.net newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc alens...@aol.com (AlenSmithe) wrote: >The same people who don't like letterboxing aren't bothered by the >onscreen logos on cable channels that stay on all the time! Joe SixPack does not like the logos that are stuck in the corner of the screen, especially on the local stations. Why, he's so mad, he'll put down his remote control long enough to pick up the phone and call the "Speak Out" column in the local newspaper (as opposed to writing a letter to the editor, or better yet, directly contacting the offending station). He asks, "Why do TV stations insist on putting their logo in the corner of the screen? Do they think we're not smart enough to know what channel we're watching?" The answer, of course, is yes. And as AlenSmithe pointed out, the average TV watcher is stupid enough to not want to see the entire picture if it means it won't fill his entire TV screen. Back to the topic: I recall that Steven Spielberg once insisted that one of his films (I think it was the 2nd or 3rd Indiana Jones film) would be available only in the letterbox format on VHS. One or more large video chains (Blockbuster?) called his bluff by refusing to place orders for it, and Spielberg folded. There haven't been any significant challenges since. Hollywood would be perfectly content to offer DVD's with only 4:3 video and using Pan & Scan to permanently ruin the transfer. DVD is going to be aimed at replacing the VCR, and they don't want to rock the boat by insisting on letterboxing. Given the current stonewalling over digital copyright, I wouldn't be surprised to see Hollywood protect the copyright by deliberately watering down the quality of films on DVD. Using 4:3 video instead of 16:9 would be one way to accomplish this. I'm sure there are hundreds of other ways to screw up a transfer from film to DVD. On the other hand, Hollywood supports letterboxing on laserdiscs and they are at least pretending to be concerned about quality by putting the THX logo on more and more new releases. (Whether or not the logo guarantees anything is another debate.) In other words, the industry can provide top quality when people want it. The important issue is whether the DVD will be "dummied down" to the lowest common denominator (to replace the VCR and put thousands of rental titles on the shelf at Blockbuster), or whether the DVD will be targeted and marketed as the "video equivalent of the compact disc". Will they cut corners on the cost of the software by eliminating features that most people won't get without the new hardware (16:9 widescreen televisions, Dolby AC-3 decoders and the amps & speakers to handle the 5.1 channels), or will they enable the software and by doing so create a market for that hardware? -----.sig under construction next three lines----- Wayne Bundrick way...@hom.net
From: lcar...@ids2.idsonline.com (Louis A. Carliner) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/09 Message-ID: <4mt7um$s56@news2.cais.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 153902342 references: <96050411133400631@portal.ca> <4mhgm0$lnr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4mmkp9$ci5@homenet.hom.net> <daverichDr2uGJ.86J@netcom.com> organization: Capital Area Internet Service, Inc. reply-to: lcar...@ids2.idsonline.com newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc >> Given the current stonewalling >>over digital copyright, I wouldn't be surprised to see Hollywood >>protect the copyright by deliberately watering down the quality of >>films on DVD.... >You have hit the nail on the head. If anything kills DVD, it will be >this. I know people at some studios. You are not going to see any >substantial content available on DVD until there's a viable anti-copy >scheme. >Dave Laser disks do not have any quality degrading copy protection schemes whatsoever! No only that, virtually all titles issued by Hollywood have a laser disk issue. If DVD turns out to be truly as great as Joe Kane was able to demonstrate at the last CES show, then there will be very little benefit in making tape copies, as not only will the quality be less, but much of the additional resource information and functionality will be missing. At the price point of $20, it will simply not be worth the bother of making taped copies. However, if for commericially shortsighted reasons, the resultant quality is allowed to be that of "goosed up" DIRECTV or USSB, which Mr. Hubbard admits to being inferior to BUD, then there will be an incentive to make tape copies. Louis A. Carliner Your source for video calibration expertise for the four-state area by an ISF/Joe Kane trained specialist equipped with both the Philips color analysr and ISF optical comparator. email: lcar...@idsonline.com
From: cr...@pcube.com (Craig Birkmaier) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/11 Message-ID: <craig-1105960739530001@ppp-gnv-fl-006.atlantic.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 154285150 references: <96050411133400631@portal.ca> <4mhgm0$lnr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4mmkp9$ci5@homenet.hom.net> organization: PCUBE Labs newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc > On the other hand, Hollywood supports letterboxing on laserdiscs and > they are at least pretending to be concerned about quality by putting > the THX logo on more and more new releases. (Whether or not the logo > guarantees anything is another debate.) In other words, the industry > can provide top quality when people want it. > > The important issue is whether the DVD will be "dummied down" to the > lowest common denominator (to replace the VCR and put thousands of > rental titles on the shelf at Blockbuster), or whether the DVD will be > targeted and marketed as the "video equivalent of the compact disc". > Will they cut corners on the cost of the software by eliminating > features that most people won't get without the new hardware (16:9 > widescreen televisions, Dolby AC-3 decoders and the amps & speakers to > handle the 5.1 channels), or will they enable the software and by > doing so create a market for that hardware? This raises an excellent point. It is going to be difficult to move joe sixpack from VHS to a new technology, at least until his 4:3 TV and VCR stop working sometime in the next century. Thus it seems that Hollywood would be better served to position DVD in the premium market segment, appealing to those with home theaters. The best way to do this would be to move to widescreen progressive scan, which would effectively double the vertical resolution; together with large screen displays, this would make letterbox a far more attractive proposition. The DVD video formats do not support 525 proscan, however, it appears that these encodings could be carried on DVD disks as a "Digital Versatile Disc" format--at least the computer industry was successful in turning the DVD discs into a "bit bucket" as well as a VCR replacement. In the past few weeks at least four consumer electronics companies have announced plans to deliver integrated TV/computer receivers; Phillips Consumer Electronics, Thompson, Zenith and Curtis Matthis. Together with Gateway 2000's announcement of a computer with a 35" display, this marks an interesting trend for the upscale, early adopter consumer. As far as I know, all of these announcements include fine print about the use of progressive scan (except perhaps for Zenith) to improve image quality and the ability to present text and graphics from the Internet. Seems that this market segment would be the best path for Hollywood to push DVD and an improved home theater experience. -- Craig Birkmaier PCUBE Labs Exploring the Convergence of Video, Computing and Telecommunications
From: mii...@best.com (Mike Iimura) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/13 Message-ID: <4n5vjj$fec@nntp1.best.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 154495673 references: <96050411133400631@portal.ca> <4mhgm0$lnr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4mmkp9$ci5@homenet.hom.net> <daverichDr2uGJ.86J@netcom.com> <4mt7um$s56@news2.cais.com> organization: Best Internet Communications newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc In article <4mt7um$s...@news2.cais.com>, lcar...@ids2.idsonline.com (Louis A. Carliner) wrote: >>> Given the current stonewalling >>>over digital copyright, I wouldn't be surprised to see Hollywood >>>protect the copyright by deliberately watering down the quality of >>>films on DVD.... > >>You have hit the nail on the head. If anything kills DVD, it will be >>this. I know people at some studios. You are not going to see any >>substantial content available on DVD until there's a viable anti-copy >>scheme. > >>Dave > >Laser disks do not have any quality degrading copy protection schemes >whatsoever! No only that, virtually all titles issued by Hollywood >have a laser disk issue. If DVD turns out to be truly as great as Joe >Kane was able to demonstrate at the last CES show, then there will be >very little benefit in making tape copies, as not only will the >quality be less, but much of the additional resource information and >functionality will be missing. At the price point of $20, it will >simply not be worth the bother of making taped copies. However, if for >commericially shortsighted reasons, the resultant quality is allowed >to be that of "goosed up" DIRECTV or USSB, which Mr. Hubbard admits to >being inferior to BUD, then there will be an incentive to make tape >copies. I think you're missing the point. The studios can not do much about people making analog copies of DVD material (like DVD -> VHS). I think what they're really worried about is people making direct digital copies of their material. For example, later on when DVD-ROM and DVD-RAM come out, if there is no firmware enforced copy protection, one could just make a straight copy and you would not be able to tell the difference between the original and the copy because there would be no difference!!! If you have a CD recorder and the appropriate software, you can do this today with CD music and CD-ROM titles. Now that CD-R media is only ~$6, this is significantly cheaper than going to the music store and buying that CD you want to listen to. I'm not suggesting that people do this, but it is technically possible. - Mike Iimura mii...@best.com
From: naug...@dorfer.fnal.gov (Thomas Naughton) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/13 Message-ID: <4n7ecq$n1f@fnnews.fnal.gov>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 154573330 references: <96050411133400631@portal.ca> <daverichDr2uGJ.86J@netcom.com> <4mt7um$s56@news2.cais.com> <4n5vjj$fec@nntp1.best.com> organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc In article <4n5vjj$f...@nntp1.best.com>, Mike Iimura <mii...@best.com> wrote: > >I think you're missing the point. The studios can not do much about >people making analog copies of DVD material (like DVD -> VHS). I >think what they're really worried about is people making direct >digital copies of their material. For example, later on when DVD-ROM >and DVD-RAM come out, if there is no firmware enforced copy protection, >one could just make a straight copy and you would not be able to tell >the difference between the original and the copy because there would >be no difference!!! I think you're right. The studios are worried that people will make digital copies. Which is why I think that, ultimately, it's a losing battle. Once I can take a DVD disk and put it into a DVD-rom drive on my computer, it's all over (even if I can't put it into a generic drive, but I can get the data off of the disk in bit format, it's going to be a lost cause). This type of thing scares the &$#@ out of studio executives. Whether it's a real, or unfounded, fear I can't really say. I do know that whatever copy protection they put on the DVD format it won't deter anybody who's serious for very long. It'll just lower the quality of DVD (which I'm not sure is going to be very good anyway) and pay lip-service to the problem. Just about the only thing that they can do is to make it economically senseless to copy the media. That is, lower the cost of DVD products so that it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of time and effort to copy them. I don't think there's a lot of pirated copies of Apollo 13 around, simply because you can pick them up at Kmart (a US bargain store) for about $14 US. If they have sell through prices of $40-$50, people are going to copy them. The only real question, is what to copy them to. =============================================================================== Thomas Naughton - naug...@fnal.gov - (708)840-5250 Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory ** UNIX System Administrator M/S 368 P.O.BOX 500 Batavia, IL 60510 ** Fax: (708)840-8208
From: cr...@pcube.com (Craig Birkmaier) Subject: Re: A Day at the DVD Forum: technical notes. Date: 1996/05/14 Message-ID: <craig-1405960741270001@ppp-gnv-fl-001.atlantic.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 154742936 references: <96050411133400631@portal.ca> <daverichDr2uGJ.86J@netcom.com> <4mt7um$s56@news2.cais.com> <4n5vjj$fec@nntp1.best.com> <4n7ecq$n1f@fnnews.fnal.gov> organization: PCUBE Labs newsgroups: sci.engr.television.advanced,alt.video.dvd,rec.video, comp.compression,alt.video.laserdisc In article <4n7ecq$n...@fnnews.fnal.gov>, naug...@dorfer.fnal.gov (Thomas Naughton) wrote: > Just about the only thing that they can do is to make it > economically senseless to copy the media. That is, lower the cost > of DVD products so that it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of > time and effort to copy them. I don't think there's a lot of > pirated copies of Apollo 13 around, simply because you can pick > them up at Kmart (a US bargain store) for about $14 US. > > If they have sell through prices of $40-$50, people are > going to copy them. The only real question, is what to copy them > to. Aha! Someone finally gets it. We are moving into an era when potentially billions of people will have virtually instant access to content over broadband networks. Copyright laws, as we know them, were designed to protect intellectual property against the manufacturing of cheap clones of the content (like what is happening today with audio CDs in China)...not for consumption of content by the masses. If Hollywood would think in terms of the profits they can make based on an equitable price to distribute their products to audiences of hundreds of millions, rather than predatory pricing based on limited availability, this problem would disappear. Unfortunately, they want to charge us $5-6 bucks to see the movie in the theater, then $40-50 to be the first on our block to own the video, then $3-4 to rent the movie at Blockbuster, then $1 when the VHS tape moves to the archive section, then "FREE" on broadcast television when they have sucked every dime they can from every other source. Riding this time dependent curve on the value of content has its risks, including piracy. Seems that Hollywood should be looking to themselves to resolve this problem, rather than making everyone pay for a copy protection scheme. Consider the DAT tape fiasco; a buck goes to Hollywood for every tape sold, and hardly any of those tapes are used to duplicate audio recordings. -- Craig Birkmaier PCUBE Labs Exploring the Convergence of Video, Computing and Telecommunications