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From: cmp...@ucbvax.ARPA (Andrew Purshottam)
Newsgroups: net.emacs
Subject: How to get GNU EMACS from its author
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Date: Sun, 24-Mar-85 20:42:36 EST
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[This is the file "DISTRIB", which comes with GNU Emacs and
is the output of the help message describing how to obtain
GNU Emacs from Richard.]
GNU Emacs availability information, March 13 1985
Copyright (C) 1984 Richard M. Stallman
Permission is granted to anyone to make or distribute
verbatim copies of this document provided that the
copyright notice and this permission notice are preserved.
GNU Emacs is legally owned by me, Richard Stallman, its author,
but I regard myself actually as its custodian on behalf of the
public, since all software ought to be the common property of
mankind.
I permit everyone to have and run copies of GNU Emacs, at no
charge, and to redistribute copies under certain conditions
which are designed to make sure that that all modified versions
of GNU Emacs remain as free as the versions I distribute.
These conditions are stated in the document "GNU Emacs copying
permission notice", a copy of which is required to be
distributed with every copy of GNU Emacs. It is usually in a
file named COPYING in the same directory as this file.
I also ship copies of GNU Emacs, and provide some services,
to people who pay for this.
I will send you a tape of the latest version of GNU Emacs,
including full sources, if you send $150 to
Richard M. Stallman
c/o Lisp Machine Incorporated
1000 Mass Ave
Cambridge, MA 02139.
(This price is subject to change without notice.)
If you are on the Internet, you can at present copy the latest
distribution version from the file /u2/emacs/edist.tar on
host MIT-PREP. After you unpack it, be sure to look at the
files README and INSTALL.
Currently GNU Emacs has only been tested on a Vax running
Berkeley 4.2 Unix. Efforts are being made to port it to other
Unix versions, and to VMS. It is far too large ever to run on
a PDP-11.
There is no manual for GNU Emacs now, but it is mostly
compatible with ITS/Twenex Emacs, and the file DIFF in this
directory describes most of the differences. You can get a
manual for Twenex Emacs for $3.75 per copy from
Publications
Artificial Intelligence Lab
545 Tech Square
Cambridge, MA 02139.
I will probably write a manual for GNU Emacs by the middle of May 1985.
Tapes sent before then will come with a copy of the Twenex manual
immediately, and a copy of the real manual will be sent when it is done.
GNU Emacs is distributed on an as-is basis; no guarantee is
made that it will not break down or that it is suitable for
any particular purpose. I do not promise any users that I will
make any particular change. However, I plan to continue to
improve GNU Emacs and keep it reliable, so please send me any
complaints and suggestions you have. I will probably fix
anything that is clearly (to me) a malfunction, and install
any easily made improvement if I agree it is desirable. More
difficult improvements I may or may not make, depending on my
evaluation of their importance and difficulty; also I may be
willing to accept a contract to make a specific improvement.
Other people may also be willing to do this for you.
If you have paid for a tape, I will also notify you by mail
when a new version is available and give you a reasonable
amount of assistance in getting GNU Emacs to work for the
first time, as long as you use it on a system it is supposed
to work on. Note that there is significant variation between Unix
systems supposedly running the same version of Unix; it is
possible that what works in GNU Emacs for me does not work
on your system due to such an incompatibility. Since I must
avoid reading Unix source code, I cannot even guess what such
problems may exist.
If you are a computer manufacturer, I encourage you to ship
a copy of GNU Emacs with every computer you deliver. The
same copying permission terms apply to computer manufacturers
as to everyone else.
If you like GNU Emacs, please express your satisfaction with
a donation: send me what you feel would be a fair price
for GNU Emacs, if you were buying it. If you are glad that I
developed GNU Emacs and distribute it as freeware, rather
than following the obstructive and antisocial practices
typical of software developers, reward me for doing so!
Your donations will help to support a career dedicated to
developing useful software such as GNU Emacs, and distributing
it all on the same free basis. In particular, I am working on
a complete imitation of the Unix operating system, called GNU
(Gnu's Not Unix), which will run Unix user programs. For more
information on GNU, see the file GNU in this directory.
Richard M Stallman
Chief GNUisance,
inventor of the first (PDP-10) Emacs.
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From: cmp...@ucbvax.ARPA (Andrew Purshottam)
Newsgroups: net.emacs
Subject: Getting GNU Emacs over the Internet: correction
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Date: Mon, 25-Mar-85 18:41:10 EST
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MIT-PREP's anonymous ftp login unfortunately can't reach the directory
where GNU Emacs usually lives. There's now a link to edist.tar in the
default ftp directory, so try getting it from there. Be warned that
this file is barely under 3 megabytes (so much for posting it on
net.sources); make sure you have enough disk space before attempting
to copy it.
paul rubin
(phr@ucbernie, using Andy's netnews acct;
please do not send mail to cmplres@ucbvax)
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From: wegrzyn@encore.UUCP (Chuck Wegrzyn)
Newsgroups: net.emacs
Subject: GNU emacs distribution
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Date: Tue, 26-Mar-85 11:58:49 EST
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While it is true that you can get Richard Stallman to send
you a copy of GNU emacs, you will find that he is usually
busy with other things.
Since I am working with Rich on the GNU project, in my
spare time, I will keep everyone informed of changes, fixes
and enhancements to GNU emacs. These will all be distributed
through net.sources.bugs, with notification in net.emacs and
net.unix.
I am establishing distribution points for GNU emacs throughout
the US, so that it will be possible to find a copy close by.
Just hang in there for a few days.
The choice of distribution is yours : you can get Rich to send
you a copy on a tape, or get it from some one close by.
I've decided not to send it over the network - there isn't enough
mail saying that it should be done. It seems 'iffy' at best -
besides the network isn't very reliable. I would hate to send out
GNU emacs over the net, and find people forever saying :
I lost piece, or pieces, ... or
I wan't paying attention could you send
them out to me
I just don't think I could spend the rest of my life doing that.
So just hang in there, Roman wasn't created in a day.
Chuck Wegrzyn
{allegra,decvax,ihnp4,linus,princeton,talcott}!encore!wegrzyn
P.S As for starting a net.sources.gnu newsgroup, I believe that
it is just a little premature. There just isn't that
much software to distribute yet. I would like to suggest
a distribution net for GNU software, though. Major points
throughout the US, Canada and Europe that can handle it
would probably be a great idea. That way those sites could
get the software by tape and be ready to distribute it.
A general message could go out saying
Foo is available from the following sites
site1 ....
After the experience of trying to single handedly distribute
GNU emacs this seems the only way.
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From: wegrzyn@encore.UUCP (Chuck Wegrzyn)
Newsgroups: net.emacs,net.general,net.unix,net.unix-wizards
Subject: Availability of GNU emacs on ARPAnet
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Date: Tue, 26-Mar-85 13:14:23 EST
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GNU emacs on the ARPA net can be found on MIT-PREP, in
a directory called /u2/emacs. If you have problems
contact me directly and I will try and arrange another
form of transfer. I am also trying to have HARVARD hold
the GNU emacs sources.
Chuck Wegrzyn
{allegra,decvax,ihnp4,linus,princeton,talcott}!encore!wegrzyn
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From: wegrzyn@encore.UUCP (Chuck Wegrzyn)
Newsgroups: net.emacs,net.general,net.unix,net.unix-wizards
Subject: Another GNU emacs site on ARPAnet
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Date: Wed, 27-Mar-85 07:39:05 EST
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GNU emacs can be obtained from the HARVARD node on ARPAnet.
If you would like to get a copy of it, please contact Nick
Horton at HARVARD (horton@harvard). He can give you further
information about getting it.
Just a small note : the sources for GNU emacs can run anywhere
from 1.4 to 3.0 Mbyes (depending on how it is packaged and
whether just source is sent). The transfer could take anywhere
from 3 to 5 hours. Some sites have experienced errors in the
transfer and had to do it again. I would therefore suggest
that you do it at night.
Good luck. If you have any questions about GNU emacs I might
be able to answer them, if not I will forward them to Richard
Stallman. In any case, an answer will be returned.
Chuck Wegrzyn
{allegra,decvax,ihnp4,linus,princeton,talcott}!encore!wegrzyn
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From: wegrzyn@encore.UUCP (Chuck Wegrzyn)
Newsgroups: net.emacs,net.general,net.unix,net.unix-wizards
Subject: Getting GNU emacs over UUCP lines
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Date: Wed, 27-Mar-85 16:38:24 EST
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To All Concerned :
If you wish to recover GNU emacs you can dial into
our system and retrieve it. The GNU emacs files are available
in four forms : tar format, shar format and compressed and
not compressed. Pick which is best for you. The file names,
and sizes are :
name format compressed size
-----------------------------------------------
GNUtar tar no 3225600
GNUtar.Z tar yes 1234510
GNUshar shar no 2418739
GNUshar.Z shar yes 941428
The compressed file is done using the Lempel-Ziv version of
compress. If you don't have a copy of this program send me a
message and I will send it to you. The command to get the file
of your choice is
uucp 'encore!~/XXXXX' YYY
where XXXXX is one of GNUtar, GNUtar.Z, GNUshar, GNUshar.Z
and YYY is the name of the file you want to call it on your
system. Remember that you must have the correct privs to
the YYY file otherwise the request will fail. If that happens
you might try /usr/spool/uucppublic for YYY which usually will
work; the file created will be /usr/spool/uucppublic/XXXXX.
Our modem is available for calling in between the
hours of 6:00PM and 6:00AM, EST. Please don't call in at
other times, it upsets our system. The phone number and
login information is
phone number : (617) 431-1476
login : uugnu
password : unguu
The modem is 1200 Baud.
With the current performance of UUCP you will see a
transfer rate of about 100 chars/second. Using this value you
will see transfer times around 2 hours for GNUshar.Z to 8
hours for GNUtar. So, pick your medicine.
If you want a tape, please send some mail to me. I am
trying to fill all the requests, but must 'space' them out over
a period of time. Therefore the messages are processed in a
fifo manner; be patient.
As people get GNU emacs I wish they would do a number
of things. First, post a message to net.emacs indicating that
a copy is available and where - this is to allow everyone to
find the closest site with a copy - and that any bugs found,
improvements made, or fixed problems be posted to net.emacs.
When building a GNU emacs system from one of the above
files I suggest that you start by creating a directory called
GNUemacs. You should than copy the file YYY to it. You should
then rebuild the system by first uncompacting the file, if you
received a .Z file. The final step before real work can be
accomplished is to 'untar' it or 'unshar' it. To unshar the
file you only need enter the command
sh YYY
To untar the file you only need to enter
tar xbf 20 YYY
That should do it.
Thanks for waiting...
Chuck Wegrzyn
{allegra,decvax,ihnp4,linus,princeton,talcott}!encore!wegrzyn
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From: cmp...@ucbvax.ARPA (Andrew Purshottam)
Newsgroups: net.emacs
Subject: GNU Emacs bug reports, 68000 ports, etc.
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Date: Sat, 6-Apr-85 06:51:01 EST
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1. Bug reports should be sent to bug-gn...@mit-prep.ARPA if
you're on the internet, or ucbvax!bug-gnu-emacs@mit-prep if you're on
the UUCP net. If your mailer can't handle addresses with both !'s
and @'s, try allegra!mit-eddie!bug-gnu-emacs. PLEASE MAKE
SURE TO SPECIFY WHAT VERSION YOU ARE RUNNING IN YOUR BUG REPORTS.
Stuff posted to net.emacs gets to the maintainers, but not quickly or
reliably.
2. I believe that the bug that osu-eddie!kk found was one that was
fixed with GNU Emacs version (approximately) 13.1, so anyone running
a newer version than that should have the fix. Version 13.1 was
distributed about 3 weeks ago. The current version is around 14.10.
People for whom getting new distributions is painful (e.g. those who
must UUCP it over dialups) might want to wait for version 15, which
should be ready in a week or so. I will probably post the GNUmacs
news file when that happens. Version 15 runs on at least one 68000
box (under 4.2bsd) and incorporates various other fixes and hacks.
Some people are trying to port it to the SUN workstation but I don't
know what the latest scoop on this is.
Paul Rubin
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