Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu! AI.MIT.EDU!rms From: r...@AI.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: gnu.gcc Subject: Supposed intellectual property rights. Message-ID: <8906100346.AA02699@sugar-bombs.ai.mit.edu> Date: 10 Jun 89 03:46:48 GMT Sender: dae...@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Distribution: gnu Organization: GNUs Not Usenet Lines: 47 I disagree. Apple does not want to "take away people's freedom to write software" in the general sense. They DO wish to prohibit people from writing software that infringes on their intellectual property rights. This is a distinction without a difference. Extending the definition of property rights *is* taking away someone else's freedom. The American Indians considered land to be common property. They did not try to bar the English from using the land. But the English, once established, started claiming to own land which the Indians had always used. When they acted to prevent infringement of their property rights, they were taking away the traditional freedom of the Indians. Not much later, the gentry in England started building fences around the land that small farmers had traditionally used, but had no deeds for. (They had never needed any.) The small farmers, kicked out to make way for more profitable kinds of farming, were left without means. This was called "simple enforcement of property rights". Now historians call it "enclosure". The text quoted above is misleading in another way as well: it speaks of "intellectual property rights" as if their existence and extent were generally accepted and uncontroversial. In fact, this is precisely what the controversy is about. What property rights does Apple have? What property rights should Apple have? Apple is claiming a kind of property which three years ago was considered outrageous but far-fetched by nearly everyone in the field. Most still consider it outrageous, but they are learning that they can't afford to consider it far-fetched. The question of whether Apple does have a new kind of property will be decided first by judges, then by Congress and by public opinion. We are working to influence all of these. However, debating this result is like debating who will win an election. The important issue is who *should* win. That is what people need to make up their minds about. The Constitution itself might suggest a criterion: it says that the purpose of copyright is, "To promote the progress of science and useful arts." In other words, if user-interface copyright actually impedes progress as many people in the field believe, it is unconstitutional.
Path: gmdzi!unido!mcvax!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!AI.MIT.EDU!rms From: r...@AI.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: gnu.gcc Subject: Supposed intellectual property rights. Message-ID: <8906151629.AA00227@sugar-bombs.ai.mit.edu> Date: 15 Jun 89 16:29:35 GMT References: <136@yaxkin.cs.utexas.edu> Sender: dae...@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Distribution: gnu Organization: GNUs Not Usenet Lines: 27 Posted: Thu Jun 15 17:29:35 1989 The issue we have been discussing is that of user-interface copyright, the so-called "look and feel". This issue involves an attempt by Apple and others to create a new kind of "intellectual property" never before recognized. All the arguments and positions I have posted on info-gcc recently are about this topic. None are about the issue of whether software should be free. But several people have misunderstood them as applying to the latter topic. Often this understanding makes my statements seem untrue and my opinions ridiculous. Although several people have begun to discuss the other topic (should software be free), I am not going to respond, because that would encourage even more misinterpretation. As long as I stick to one and only one topic, there is a simple rule for which one I am discussing. If I start discussing more than one, there will be no such rule. Right now, I am trying to persuade people of the wrongness and danger of Apple's actions. I expect that many people will agree with me on this, who would not agree with my attitude toward proprietary software. I hope to build a coalition with these people to fight user-interface copyright, which means leaving our disagreements on other issues to be discussed later. For those who are interested in my responses to the arguments which have been posted in favor of proprietary software, I refer you to the GNU Manifesto.