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From: hfaes...@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hannes Faestermann)
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Subject: yabba compressor - why not on prep ?
Summary: yabba compressor - why not on prep ?
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Hi there,

I'm not sure if this is the correct newsgroup but anyways:

In the GNUs Bulletin from June 91 I read from yabba replacing compress for GNU
software in the future. What I don't understand is, why is yabba not available
on prep.ai.mit.edu in the directory pub/gnu ? It's not that I didn't find yabba
elsewhere like on sun.soe.clarkson.edu but I think if the FSF announces that
they will switch to another compression program it would be a good idea to put
this program on the machine where GNU software is available first so that 
people can try this new compression (sorry for this monster of words but I'm 
german :)) ).

Just a question/suggestion from someone who has yabba installed even if I 
hardly use it :)

	Hannes

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From: to...@ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
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Subject: yabba compressor - why not on prep ?
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   Date: 13 Nov 91 15:03:16 GMT
   Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
   From: hfaes...@physik.tu-muenchen.de (Hannes Faestermann)
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   Hi there,

   I'm not sure if this is the correct newsgroup but anyways:

   In the GNUs Bulletin from June 91 I read from yabba replacing
   compress for GNU software in the future. What I don't understand
   is, why is yabba not available on prep.ai.mit.edu in the directory
   pub/gnu ? It's not that I didn't find yabba elsewhere like on
   sun.soe.clarkson.edu but I think if the FSF announces that they
   will switch to another compression program it would be a good idea
   to put this program on the machine where GNU software is available
   first so that people can try this new compression (sorry for this
   monster of words but I'm german :)) ).

Heh, the future isn't here yet, so why the hubba?  ;-}

The new compression program will be announced and placed on
prep.ai.mit.edu, when we are ready to do the switch.

   Just a question/suggestion from someone who has yabba installed even if I 
   hardly use it :)

	   Hannes

enjoy -len

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From: d...@eng.umd.edu (David J. MacKenzie)
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Subject: Re: yabba compressor - why not on prep ?
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In-Reply-To: tower@ai.mit.edu's message of 14 Nov 91 14:33:14 GMT

>    In the GNUs Bulletin from June 91 I read from yabba replacing
>    compress for GNU software in the future. What I don't understand
>    is, why is yabba not available on prep.ai.mit.edu in the directory
>    pub/gnu ? It's not that I didn't find yabba elsewhere like on
>    sun.soe.clarkson.edu but I think if the FSF announces that they
>    will switch to another compression program it would be a good idea
>    to put this program on the machine where GNU software is available
>    first so that people can try this new compression (sorry for this
>    monster of words but I'm german :)) ).

> The new compression program will be announced and placed on
> prep.ai.mit.edu, when we are ready to do the switch.

RMS announced a month or two ago that about a week before the FSF was
planning to release the yabba-based compression program, a patent on
its algorithm was announced.
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David J. MacKenzie <d...@eng.umd.edu> <d...@ai.mit.edu>

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From: brns...@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein)
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Subject: Re: yabba compressor - why not on prep ?
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In article <DJM.91Nov14141...@frob.eng.umd.edu> d...@eng.umd.edu (David J. MacKenzie) 
writes:
> RMS announced a month or two ago that about a week before the FSF was
> planning to release the yabba-based compression program, a patent on
> its algorithm was announced.

This is, to my knowledge, false. No patents currently cover Y coding or
anything else used by my yabba program. (Possible exception: I did
unroll some loops, and rumor has it that IBM patented unrolling in 1986.
I *hope* this rumor is false.) The recent Gibson-Graybill patent appears
to cover some of Ross Williams' LZRW algorithms, which GNU was looking
at along with yabba as possible replacements for compress.

---Dan