Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Path: sparky!uunet!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!gnu.ai.mit.edu!rms From: r...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) Subject: FSF actions vs purposes Message-ID: <9301072148.AA17124@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Sender: dae...@cis.ohio-state.edu Organization: GNUs Not Usenet Distribution: gnu Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:48:03 GMT Lines: 23 From time to time, people accuse the FSF of being dishonest or hypocritical. These people generally misunderstand what the FSF is doing or its aims or reasons; what they criticize doesn't match the FSF. We try hard to tell people what we are doing and why. We published the GNU Manfesto at the very beginning, and we include it with every copy of Emacs. We explain our aims in the GNU's Bulletin, which we publish on paper and on the net twice a year. But many users seem to find out about GNU software without reading these things, and they formulate an inaccurate idea of what we stand for. Eventually they discover facts that don't jibe with this idea, and they may then conclude that we are false to "our own" principles. Of course, our real principles are something else, but they don't realize that. Sometimes inaccurate facts come into the process as well. It is a shame if people have misunderstandings about what GNU stands for--even if the result is that they think they agree. To help prevent this, I plan to write a few messages addressing philosophical issues, and have them posted from time to time.
Path: sparky!uunet!pipex!ibmpcug!mantis!news From: mathew <mat...@mantis.co.uk> Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: FSF actions vs purposes Message-ID: <930108.131534.9c4.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 13:15:34 GMT References: <9301072148.AA17124@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK. X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.98 Lines: 23 r...@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) writes: > But many users seem to find out about GNU software without reading > these things, and they formulate an inaccurate idea of what we stand > for. > > Eventually they discover facts that don't jibe with this idea, and > they may then conclude that we are false to "our own" principles. Of > course, our real principles are something else, but they don't realize > that. It seems to me that you're admitting that the term "Free Software" as used by GNU misleads people. > It is a shame if people have misunderstandings about what GNU stands > for--even if the result is that they think they agree. To help > prevent this, I plan to write a few messages addressing philosophical > issues, and have them posted from time to time. To help prevent it, why don't you give the FSF an honest name which people can't be misled by? mathew
Path: sparky!uunet!news.claremont.edu!ucivax!news.service.uci.edu!usc.edu! howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!uni-heidelberg!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!ma2s2!haible From: hai...@ma2s2.uucp (Bruno Haible) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: FSF actions vs purposes Date: 3 Feb 1993 02:13:43 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Lines: 14 Sender: <hai...@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de> Message-ID: <1kn9on$d05@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <9301072148.AA17124@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <930108.131534.9c4.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: free software, open > It seems to me that you're admitting that the term "Free Software" as used by > GNU misleads people. Why is "Free Software" not called "Open Software"? The german philosopher Karl Popper wishes the society organized in such a way that mistakes ("bugs" in our domain) are are corrected, not hidden, when they are perceived. He uses the term "open" to denote such an attitude towards mistakes. Bruno Haible hai...@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de Disclaimer: I'm not Karl Popper. Citing a philosopher always mutilates his theory.