From linux Fri Feb 14 22:36:39 1992 Return-Path: <linux-standards-request@concert.net> Received: from jazz.concert.net by banjo.concert.net with SMTP (PP) id <8008-0@banjo.concert.net>; Fri, 14 Feb 1992 22:35:57 -0500 Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by jazz.concert.net (5.59/tas-concert/6-19-91) id AA14398; Fri, 14 Feb 92 22:35:52 -0500 Message-Id: <9202150335.AA14398@jazz.concert.net> Received: from ukc.ac.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk via JANET with NIFTP id <25417-0@sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>; Fri, 14 Feb 1992 18:51:44 +0000 Received: from falcon by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with UKC POP3+ id aa18668; 14 Feb 92 13:37 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Feb 92 13:31:10 +0000 From: db1@ukc.ac.uk To: linux-standards@concert.net Subject: Root, partitions, directoryes It seems to me that it is not clear why we need root to have home in / and why something is needed in /bin /lib /etc The point is to minimize the possible damage from a disk crash and be able to do admin even with a half broken system. Usually you put swap and root in one phisical disk and all the rest of the partitions somewhere else. By doing this you have less probability that a crash of ONE of your disks is going to make your systm useless. Infact if you have swap, root and all admin commands ( essential ) in one disk you can "repair" the damage fairly quickly. The point is to select whta commands are "essential" ...... to do repairing. Something like format mkfs init login getty sh vi ...... Anyway. I don't think root HAS to have .exrc .bashrc .mailrc ...... remembar the su is supposed to leave the environ intact if you do not do su - Damiano
From linux Fri Feb 14 22:50:56 1992 Return-Path: <linux-standards-request@concert.net> Received: from jazz.concert.net by banjo.concert.net with SMTP (PP) id <8072-0@banjo.concert.net>; Fri, 14 Feb 1992 22:49:03 -0500 Received: from engr.uark.edu by jazz.concert.net (5.59/tas-concert/6-19-91) id AA14411; Fri, 14 Feb 92 22:49:00 -0500 Received: by engr.uark.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id <m0lFGPr-00014LC@engr.uark.edu>; Fri, 14 Feb 92 21:50 CST Message-Id: <m0lFGPr-00014LC@engr.uark.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 92 21:50 CST From: dws@engr.uark.edu (David W. Summers) To: db1@ukc.ac.uk Subject: Re: Root, partitions, directoryes Cc: linux-standards@concert.net Maybe part of the problem people are having with directories in certain places in the file system structure is that there has not been any talk (that I've seen) about what partitions are assumed. I know that on a SUN, there is the / (root) partition, a /usr partition which is read-only, a /home partition for the users and a /var partition where /var/tmp, /var/spool, etc. are place in. Maybe this can help clear up why some people like directories in certain places in the file system tree?????????? - David Summers
From linux Sat Feb 15 12:46:52 1992 Return-Path: <linux-standards-request@concert.net> Received: from jazz.concert.net by banjo.concert.net with SMTP (PP) id <9403-0@banjo.concert.net>; Sat, 15 Feb 1992 12:46:12 -0500 Received: from tsx-11.MIT.EDU by jazz.concert.net (5.59/tas-concert/6-19-91) id AA15347; Sat, 15 Feb 92 12:46:08 -0500 Received: by tsx-11.MIT.EDU with sendmail-5.61/1.2, id AA09787; Sat, 15 Feb 92 12:45:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 92 12:45:53 -0500 From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.edu (Theodore Ts'o) Message-Id: <9202151745.AA09787@tsx-11.MIT.EDU> To: dws@engr.uark.edu Cc: db1@ukc.ac.uk, linux-standards@concert.net In-Reply-To: David W. Summers's message of Fri, 14 Feb 92 21:50 CST, <m0lFGPr-00014LC@engr.uark.edu> Subject: Re: Root, partitions, directoryes Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu Address: 1 Amherst St., Cambridge, MA 02139 Phone: (617) 253-8091 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 92 21:50 CST From: dws@engr.uark.edu (David W. Summers) I know that on a SUN, there is the / (root) partition, a /usr partition which is read-only, a /home partition for the users and a /var partition where /var/tmp, /var/spool, etc. are place in. Hold on a second! Sun can assume that people need to have so many partitions, because after all, Sun is a hardware manufacturer and makes money selling disks. Some of us may not have the luxury of throwing so many disks/partitions at the problem. That's why I've been plugging /usr/home. People with one /usr partition can have /usr/home be in the same partition as /usr, and people with more disks (and by extension, money) to burn, can mount one of their copious numbers of partitions on /usr/home. In contrast, if you use /homes then you must either use a sym link from /usr/homes to /homes, which gets confusing to users --- or you have to use another partition. (Theoretically, I suppose you have a third options of using one gigantic partition and mount it in /, but that's not very satisfying either.) I do agree, though, that we should just adopt the draft filesystem standard, since I doubt we will be able to get accomplish much more by merely flaming on the subject. To give it credit, it looks a lot less like a camel(*) than many other standards efforts which I have seen, and it is definitely better than what we have now. - Ted (*) Definition of a camel: a horse designed by committee