Path: pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!doc.ic.ac.uk!marble.uknet.ac.uk!mcsun!uunet! caen!batcomputer!db.TC.Cornell.EDU!mdw From: dna@uu2.psi.com (James Botte) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce,comp.os.linux Subject: Announcing the OASG Linux Trust Date: 25 Mar 1993 18:27:12 GMT Organization: Cornell Theory Center Lines: 213 Approved: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh) Message-ID: <1osti0$lqc@fitz.TC.Cornell.EDU> Reply-To: dna@oecddcc.com NNTP-Posting-Host: db.tc.cornell.edu Keywords: OASG trust, money, money, money Originator: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU I originally posted this proposal to comp.os.linux with the announcement that I was bracing myself for the flames. I have received nothing but extremely positive feedback (thank you all) and constructive criticism (which I actually took into account for this new posting :-). I have created a new channel on linux-activists called OASG-TRUST. To join, send a message to linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi with the line ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "X-Mn-Admin: join OASG-TRUST" as the message (without the quotes...). From that point on, to "post" to the channel, send your mail to linux-activists@niksula.hut.fi and put the line "X-Mn-Key: OASG-TRUST" as ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the first line of the message. [sorry to everyone that already knows this]. Exact details of where money can be sent in each country will be announced in future postings as they "come on line". I am actively looking for volunteers in all countries but the U.S.A., Canada, and Norway [I am setting things up in France, but might want to abdicate at some point if I don't keep getting contracts over here]. If you are interested, you can send me mail via the linux-activists channel or at my friend's account in Canada (farrellj@pinetree.org). Introduction: ------------- To help promote continuing Linux development, including work being done by identifiable groups (such as the FSF, XFree, etc.) and individuals (Linus and a cast of thousands), I have decided to create "The OASG Linux Trust". The purpose of this zero profit "construct" is to gather money from appreciative individuals and (hopefully) companies and to distribute it to those who made Linux what it is today and what it will be tomorrow. There are three main criteria for this "enterprise" to be successful: 1. People must be able to send money to a central point in their own country using negotiables recognized by banks in their country (cheques/money orders/direct transfers). This eliminates the hassle of currency conversion for small amounts and allows better rates to be achieved when distributing money. 2. The process of selecting who will get what percentage of the money must be made totally democratic to prevent the administrators of such a "fund" from abusing their position. 3. There must be a high level of accountability to the Linux community so everyone will know that their contribution is going where it should. I am willing to "administer" the fund in general and will do so with no expectation of recompense (conflict of interest otherwise ;-). I am personally setting up central points in France, Canada, and the United States and already have a volunteer for Norway. I am also investigating what would need to be done in other countries to set up central collection points, but will need volunteers (any takers?). As with all other endeavours in the Linux community, if you like it, use it! If you don't like it, then don't use it! But this would at least provide an identifiable channel that could be used by those who wanted to show their happiness to the community in general via cash. The area that this concept can't handle is when someone wants a certain individual or group to be the direct recipient of a donation: in this instance, you can still send your tee-shirts, video cards, and money directly! Central Collection of Funds: ---------------------------- Each country needs to have a Central Collection Point where people from that country will send their donations to via the national mail system and in their native currency. It is my hope that funds can be sent directly to the responsible bank for deposit into the appropriate account so there is no "person" intervening. This will render the setup secure and will increase the ability to collect accounting information. Ideally, the bank where everything was sent would not only deposit the money into the account, but collect any letters sent along with the donations and forward them to me (in Canada) once a month with the account statements. This would allow me to post the names of the benefactors as well as the amounts that they donated (unless of course the benefactor requested anonymity). I know this is possible in both Canada and in the U.S.A., but I am getting a lot of "c'est pas normal Monsieur!" trying to do this in Paris... The account will be created, but it may not be ideal (perhaps un citroen de France could investigate this further since I only have a limited amount of time to set things up and I don't understand all the intricacies of the French banking system). It is important to have the names of the individuals who sent in money (or "Anonymous" if they request it) so their donation can be announced publically so they know that their money made it safely. Once a month, all records will be "published" in an agreed upon forum (I am planning a channel on linux-activists for this stuff). Democratic Allocation of Collected Monies: ------------------------------------------ There will be a mail channel where determination of the recipients of "funds" will be made through a democratic process. Individuals, groups, and corporations will be "nominated" by the readers of c.o.l (46000 people should provide a nice "cross section" :-) or via snail-mail [perhaps we could get Unix World to announce the event in a press release?]. Once all nominations have been received, a list of nominees is sent out. At this point, the nominees have the option of declining or indicating an alternate recipient. In any case, for a nominee to make it onto the final "ballot", they must receive at least a certain number of "seconders" (five to start with ?). At this point the list is sent over c.o.l and c.o.l.a for voting [perhaps we can even convince a magazine to carry the ballot?] Voters will rank any "nominees" with a percentage that they would like to see that "nominee" get. All votes returned will be run through our favorite statistics package to determine just what the collective mass thought what percentage each nominee should get (everyone's a winner!!!). This percentage of the "fund" would be sent to the lucky recipient. The voting procedure would take place once every three months (on the solstices and equinoxes? This would place the first vote June 21st, 1993 which would hopefully be enough time to get at least a dribble of cash...). The ballot would also always have a few "special" categories: 1. The Free Software Foundation 2. Linus Torvalds (Sorry Linus, no choice so don't complain! ;-) 3. "Awards" of Excellence The Free Software Foundation is one of the prime reasons why Linux is such a fabulous development platform and is responsible for innumerable utilities and other doodads. Linus wrote the lions' share of the kernel and has been responsible for keeping it clean and organizing extensions. The "Awards" of Excellence would have to be subject to a second vote (one and a half months after the main vote?) and is intended for those individuals or groups who have consistently made exceptional contributions to the Linux development effort (Linus and the FSF don't qualify, they have their own phylum above :). The voting on this one would be via a ranking system and would be used to choose between 5 and 10 recipients (???) with a "first" prize, "second" prize, and then a bunch of "third" prizes. Accountability: --------------- Each month, a list of all donations will be "published" on a linux-activists channel along with general accounting information (just how much was collected in total and where). This allows individuals and companies that sent money to verify that the money was received properly and for interested onlookers to nose around :). Also, once a month, the summary will be posted to c.o.l.a (is this ok?). After the voting has taken place, the results of who gets what and how much will be posted to c.o.l.a (including how much is up for "grabs" in the "Awards" fund). There is a possibility that a detailed accounting of names will not be possible for a Central Collection Point due to banking policy (for example, if they want exorbitant service charges for the service or that "c'etait pas normal"). In such a case, the individual amounts would still be posted and people would just have to match the amounts up... Arbitration and Problems: ------------------------- Like it or not, this is the real world and problems will occur (lost mail, disagreements, etc.); therefore, any decisions taken by The OASG Linux Trust are final. Also, we cannot be responsible for lost or stolen mail [this has happened to me in Canada :-( ]. Also, since this is a private "construct" administered by myself on a zero profit basis, all flames should be sent to /dev/null. This mail account will die a horrible death March 31st when I head back to Canada, I will announce my new account name around the beginning of April. Until then, you can send mail to the OASG-LINUX channel on the linux-activists mailing list. What's Next: ------------ I need people to set things up in other countries... volunteers are needed to deal with the banks there. See above for what is needed... please contact me before you do anything though (through the OASG-LINUX channel if nothing else). I will announce the Central Collection Point for France in the next week (I have to set it up while I'm still here!) and the Central Collection Point for Canada in the first two weeks of April. By the end of April I should have the CCP for the United States (will probably be in NY state). Until then, the FSF is a good target if you have money that's burning a hole in your pocket! They can be found at 675 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139 USA. You can even wire money directly to their bank [First National Bank of Boston, 100 Federal Street, Boston, MA 02110 USA. The bank's ABA number is: 011000390. The account is: Free Software Foundation, acct. #603-70213]. I will also be investigating the possibility of gettings accounts with the global credit card companies that people could use to donate through no matter where they are (Visa, MasterCard, Amex). Constructive comments can be sent to dna@oecddcc.com until the end of March. Notes: ------ 1. The "OASG" is the Ottawa Advanced Software Group and it is the name of my (very small) company in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. I decided to prepend the name so others could also formulate "trusts" and give them their own names if it was necessary. 2. We are going to try and release a Linux distribution sometime over the next six to eight months. There is currently no potential conflict of interest. It is my goal however to continue the "Trust" even after we start shipping "product", I hope that the structure I proposed will be sufficiently "democratic" that there is will be no possibility of people accusing us of rigging things (I would go so far as to say that the company should be inelligible for "awards" from such a fund). 3. As far as actually sending money to a "recipient", there would probably have to be a floor set so it doesn't cost more to send the "award" than it is worth. This can't be set until we see the logistics of this thing in action. 4. I have considered making the XFree crowd one of the "special" categories on the ballot because of the major impact they have on how well Linux will be accepted by the "common" folk and the consistently good work they have done, but have been foiled by the lack of a single point where "awards" can be sent [this is a hint guys/gals]. -- Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu