From: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: Don't use Motif for free sw: it now requires runtime royalties! Date: 18 Nov 1993 13:41:47 +0200 Approved: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu (Lars Wirzenius) Message-ID: <2cfn1r$o7j@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Perhaps this is a johnny-come-lately sort of posting, but the subject matter is important enough that it deserves repeating, if that's the case. I have recently learned that the Motif library implementation by OSF is now distributed with a license that requires royalty payments for every _binary_ distributed that contains parts of the OSF Motif runtime libraries when the binary is for a machine that does not already have a Motif license. This effectively means that all those that want their sw to be generally free should stop using Motif -- there is no alternative to OSF's Motif implementation for all of the free OSes that are currently so popular (I don't know of _any_ other commonly available library with an API ompatible with that of OSF's Motif implementation). Note that this new license restriction makes Motif based sw hard to distribute *only* on free OSes: most commercial OSes nowadays are sold bundled with a runtime Motif license, so there is no need to pay OSF a runtime library royalty when distributing a Motif binary for say an IBM or HP workstation (and soon, thanks to COSE, for Sun too). Therefore all authors and prospective authors of free sw should avoid using Motif: their programs will not be distributable in binary form for any free OS (BSD, Linux, Mach 3.0, and so on), and using source distributions will require the purchase of a rather expensive (when compared to the royalty paid by a manufacturer to bundle Motif on all their machines) full Motif package, if available. There are several alternatives to Motif: * the XView library, donated by Sun, is rather high quality and easy to program into. * the Interviews library, for C++ programmers, is also very high quality and easy to program for, and rumour is that it will become a standard part of X11R6. * the venerable Athena widget library is standard with most all X11 packages, and there are several high quality high level widgets available in the Free Widget Foundation collection, which cover the functionality of the more sophisticated XView/Motif/Interviews widgets. Finally a personal note: I think that this decision of the OSF is extremely ill considered; I am hard pressed to think of *any* supplier of graphical libraries of any sort that requires the payment of a royalty on every copy of a program using a runtime library. Runtime library royalties have not been a common industry practice for many years now; they were quick to disappear in the early eighties (largely thanks to Borland). It is also interesting to note that this significant tightening of the license terms seems *designed* to hurt *only* the development of free sw, and of free OSes: the OSF Motif l&f and implementation are an ever more popular industry standard, and virtually all workstation manufacturers already supply a (very cheap to them) Motif runtime license with every copy of their proprietary OSes. Perhaps the OSF founders feel threatened by Linux, now that the ATT/USL/SUN axis is conquered? -- Mail submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu PLEASE remember Keywords: and a short description of the software.
From: "Peter J. Dohm" < dohm@slip1-18 (none)> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: Free-Motif Date: 20 Nov 1993 19:16:52 +0200 Approved: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu (Lars Wirzenius) Message-ID: <2clje4$71l@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Hello all... I just wanted to make this publicly known... I'm the organizer of a project to write (essentially) a drop in replacement for OSF/Motif. The librarys will be written from scratch, and we won't be looking at ANYTHING except the specs for Motif, so as not to get any copywrited or ugly implementation ideas. We intend the window manager to be a derivative of fvwm. The licensing will be approximately the X Consortium's licensing. We are currently in the pre-design stages, because I can't get my durn mailing list set up quickly enough (ARRGH!). As soon as that mailing list is active, I plan on moving as quickly as possible. I've already had hundreds of people mail to me to be put on the mailing list, and you will all be added a.s.i.r. (as soon as it's ready :) Please send me mail if you have any questions/comments. Pete --- Pete Dohm Computer Science - Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio USA -- Mail submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu PLEASE remember Keywords: and a short description of the software.