From: m...@aparima.com (Louis-David Mitterrand) Subject: M$'s strategy against Linux: nightmare scenario Date: 1997/12/04 Message-ID: <slrn68dvpj.s84.mito@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Deja-AN: 295239217 X-Trace: 881262387 15899 mito 206.86.0.12 Organization: Aparima inc. Reply-To: m...@m2.sprynet.com Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Using Linux every day, one never ceases to learn and be amazed at the creativity and cleverness of Linux contributors worldwide. This platform is seriously coming of age: some major institutions are starting to rely on it for production work. Like Microsoft software at some time, Linux entered the enterprise through the back door right under the nose of IT staff sometimes. Now network admins are discovering its reliability, "suits" never had a chance to veto it because it never was a budget item, engineering likes to work with it at home. Then one day you wake up and you realize Linux has become ubiquitously present in your enterprise without having been officially invited. And everybody learns to like the Penguin: friendly, never raises a fuss, does its job, doesn't eat much. OK, now what's next? Linux means business, *is* business. The coming of age is very real: RedHat 5.0 is winning rave reviews for its ease-of-use and idiot-proof installation "even easier than NT", the Wine project (windows emulator) is starting to make serious progress and some major win32 apps are beginning to work. It won't take much more than another year to see comprehensive support for Win95/NT apps under Linux. Next thing, people will ask "why shell out $800 for NT Server, when I can get the same more reliable services from a $50 RedHat CD? These MS support people never answer the phone anyway, and I can run Office97 with Wine." Hmmm.. I see a pattern there. NT 5.0 delayed (again..) and RedHat is there today. Anyway the next question I have is a major one (two): - now that Linux is starting to appear on MS's radar screen what is MS going to do about it? - How should the Linux community ensure Linux's future, freedom and copyrights against a big, greedy, powerful corporation whose central product (NT) is threatened by a free unix clone? I want to rely on Linux for everything I do in my little consulting operation. "rely" means I want to be sure nobody will be able to highjack Linux. Bill Gates is not a fool and he is certainly not one to underestimate the power of grassroots movements. I'm sure he already has a strategy to deal with Linux at some point. Or he is seriously thinking about one. The problem is: I bet this strategy doesn't rely on fair competition in open markets and feature-to-feature comparisons. Why? Simply because it is impossible to compete against the Linux community's talent pool on the basis of performance and features. And I'm deeply concerned. What is the man preparing? Call me a paranoid and I'll answer "only the paranoid survive" (dixit Andy Grove, 95% market share). One main concern I have is Transmeta, inc., Linus Torvalds' employer. This company is more or less controlled by Paul Allen, the Seattle billionaire and Microsoft founder. Mr Allen is still a MS board member and 10% (?) shareholder. Mr Allen is also one of Bill Gates' closest friends (is he has any) and confidants. Weren't they together on Fortune Magazine's cover less than a year ago? It is of public knowledge that they consult regularly one a variety of subjects, especially on the Microsoft Corporation strategy. Now in my nightmares a conversation between the two of them often recurs: - B.G: "Hey Paul, this guy Linus Torvalds is finishing his studies out there in Finland, the stuff he's making - this Linux OS - looks pretty neat, why don't you make him an offer he can't refuse?" - P.A: "No problem Bill, I'll park him at Transmeta, they're making hot stuff and I'll give him plenty of free time to keep developing this Linux thingy, under our watchful eye." - B.G: "Right. Then if it gets out of control we can buy you out and put our stamp on the stuff. After a couple years we can claim all this was developed on company time. Then we'll just merge it into NT." - P.A: "I'll give you an option to take over at $xxx,xxx,xxx." This is a nightmare scenario of course. I have a deep respect for Linus' work and way of managing the kernel development. But isn't he a bit young and inexperienced against the West Coast's big guns? Hasen't he fell into a huge trap? Imagine Microsoft taking over Transmeta at some point in the (not so distant) future and saying that Linux code is tainted with MS copyrighted code because Linus worked on it while at Transmeta (now an MS affiliate)... Imagine RedHat, Caldera, Debian obliged to take down their FTP servers because of the legal tangle about Linux... Even if MS is rebutted in court and Linux comes out clean as *truly free* software it will take at least two years (or more) to clear out the smoke. Meanwhile NT will have made major inroads everywhere. And the Linux threat will be seriously diminished. I hear people yelling "how about the GNU license you dork?". Hmm.. and I answer: has anybody challenged the GPL in the courts? Has the FSF ever had to defend it against a mean, influential and deep-pocketed corporation? Like Stalin asking "The Pope? How many armored divisions?" I ask "GNU? How many lawyers, lobbyists, cash-on-hand at the bank? Up to now nobody cared about GNU software. No software company saw it as a threat. These bearded, suspender-wearing UN*X idealists didn't bother anybody. Today GNU software is becoming essential and a competitive threat. SUN should be even more worried than MS on that count. Please somebody tell me this nightmare scenario is just plain stupid, impossible and I'll be happy and go away and sleep better... Cheers. -- Louis-David Mitterrand m...@m2.sprynet.com
From: jer...@netcom.com (Jeremy Allison) Subject: Re: M$'s strategy against Linux: nightmare scenario Date: 1997/12/04 Message-ID: <jeremyEKoMw2.Cu2@netcom.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 295260151 Sender: jer...@netcom13.netcom.com References: <slrn68dvpj.s84.mito@shell4.ba.best.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy m...@aparima.com (Louis-David Mitterrand) writes: >I hear people yelling "how about the GNU license you dork?". Hmm.. and I >answer: has anybody challenged the GPL in the courts? Has the FSF ever >had to defend it against a mean, influential and deep-pocketed >corporation? Like Stalin asking "The Pope? How many armored divisions?" >I ask "GNU? How many lawyers, lobbyists, cash-on-hand at the bank? Up to >now nobody cared about GNU software. No software company saw it as a >threat. These bearded, suspender-wearing UN*X idealists didn't bother >anybody. Today GNU software is becoming essential and a competitive >threat. SUN should be even more worried than MS on that count. >Please somebody tell me this nightmare scenario is just plain stupid, >impossible and I'll be happy and go away and sleep better... I don't have worries about the GPL - I'm sure that'll stand up in court. No - the nightmare scenario is the large portfolio of software patents that MS (and most others in commercial software) are amassing. All of a sudden MS says "Linux violates our patent on the XOR'ing of Windows onto a screen" (to paraphrase an early, insane software patent that was used to attack the X Window System) - cease and disist, or pay us $50 royalty for all copies shipped. Then we're in trouble. Of course software patents are only really popular in the USA (one of the most seriouly disturbed places on earth) but the good 'ole US govenment is pushing to get them adopted everywhere via international agreements. Software patents could kill Linux (and all free software for that matter). That's what keeps me awake nights. Jeremy Allison, Samba Team.
From: Russell Nelson <nel...@crynwr.com> Subject: Re: M$'s strategy against Linux: nightmare scenario Date: 1997/12/05 Message-ID: <m2k9djvkxn.fsf@desk.crynwr.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 295493238 References: <slrn68dvpj.s84.mito@shell4.ba.best.com> <jeremyEKoMw2.Cu2@netcom.com> Organization: Crynwr Software Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy jer...@netcom.com (Jeremy Allison) writes: > All of a sudden MS says "Linux violates our patent on the XOR'ing > of Windows onto a screen" (to paraphrase an early, insane software > patent that was used to attack the X Window System) - cease and > desist, or pay us $50 royalty for all copies shipped. So? Program around it. XOR'ing isn't a requirement. You could, for example, add one to every pixel when drawing, and subtract one when erasing. Or else, do a save-under. There are very few patents that cannot be programmed around. Linux has more intellectual resources at hand than Microsoft. They cannot create or even buy patents faster than we can program around them. -- -russ <nel...@crynwr.com> http://www.crynwr.com/~nelson | Freedom is the Crynwr Software supports freed software | PGPok | primary cause of peace. 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Obedient, Christian, statist: Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | you only get to pick two.