From raubitsj@yahoo.com Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Raubitschek raubitsj@yahoo.com Subject: [Livid-dev] LinuxDVD website and mailing list is down The network connection which hosts the LinuxDVD website and mailing list, corepower.com has been severely vandalized yesterday night (9/5/1999). It is possible that it will be down for several days if not longer while the fiber optics are being repaired. Sorry about the inconvenience. This I guess is a good time to address the "two list servers for the same purpose" question: I would be very happy to merge the lists, i have a few problems with the livid list though: 1. Archive is not searchable The archive isn't useful without this feature! 2. Not enough links on web. I think it is sometimes really nice to have a convenient list of links to various projects which are related rather than having to search through archives for the ac3dec webpage 3. Downtime I guess I cant complain about this now that LinuxDVD is experiencing some of its own. Happy DVD hacking === -------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Raubitschek (raubitsj@writeme.com) Computer Engineer (http://www.corepower.com/~raubitsj) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
From pvolcko@concentric.net Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:49:11 -0400 (EDT) From: pvolcko@concentric.net pvolcko@concentric.net Subject: [Livid-dev] LinuxDVD website and mailing list is down > The network connection which hosts the LinuxDVD > website and mailing list, corepower.com has been > severely vandalized yesterday night (9/5/1999). That's unfortunate. First time I've heard of a site going down due to vandalizing, though, and not have it referring to site crackers or something. > This I guess is a good time to address the "two list > servers for the same purpose" question: > I would be very happy to merge the lists, i have > a few problems with the livid list though: > 1. Archive is not searchable > The archive isn't useful without this > feature! > 2. Not enough links on web. > I think it is sometimes really nice to have > a convenient list of links to various > projects which are related rather than > having > to search through archives for the ac3dec > webpage > 3. Downtime > I guess I cant complain about this now that > LinuxDVD is experiencing some of its own. All good points. Numbers 1 esepcially. Number 2 is interesting though and I think it goes somewhat to the two different purposes of the lists. Linuxdvd was a general non-affiliated list whereas livid-dev is obviously affiliated and to a certain extent based on a single project, Livid. It easy enough to add links to the Livid site and I suspect that they will be added when the site gets it's makeover in the near future (if I remember right mpav said something about the site getting a new look sometime soon). I personally see a lot of sense in keeping two seperate lists, one for general topics applicable to all dvd development efforts (and announcements from specific projects or of new projects) and another for the Livid project and it's sub-projects. But this scheme is pretty much at the mercy of those posting (especially since the lists are unmoderated). Not to mention, in these situations where a list goes down, it makes sense that there be more than one list, so that communication for development doesn't need to be affected significantly. I vote for multiple lists with people taking care to post to the appropriate list for their comment. Moderation if it becomes clear that people aren't taking that kind of care (note moderation will likely not censor any messages, merely redirect them to the correct list).