[BusyBox] Licence david stevenson david at avoncliff.com Wed Dec 10 18:03:10 UTC 2003 Eric I note your hall of shame page. I do not know what the companies listed have released, but I would like to confirm that a commercial embedded product can include both busybox and non gpl code. My understanding is any modifications or linked code would have to be gpl, but a separate standalone program, could be called from a busybox init without being seen as a derived work. Is this correct? David
[BusyBox] Licence Erik Andersen andersen at codepoet.org Wed Dec 10 19:18:53 UTC 2003 On Wed Dec 10, 2003 at 06:03:10PM +0000, david stevenson wrote: > Eric I note your hall of shame page. I do not know what the > companies listed have released, but I would like to confirm > that a commercial embedded product can include both busybox and > non gpl code. > > My understanding is any modifications or linked code would have > to be gpl, but a separate standalone program, could be called > from a busybox init without being seen as a derived work. Is > this correct? You are correct. A commercial product can certainly contain BusyBox. I consider the use of BusyBox in commercial products a good thing. The fact that a product contains BusyBox does not in any way restrict said product from containing other non GPL code. Just because you use BusyBox and/or run on Linux you do not need to give away all your code. But you are however obligated to distribute the complete source code to the exact version of BusyBox distributed with your product, as well as the complete source code to the exact version of the Linux kernel, and the complete source code for any other GPL licenses components contained within your product. Some people choose to distribute the source on a CD accompanying their product. Others choose to simply include a blurb within their product docs that says something like: This product uses software licensed under Open Source licenses such as the GPL. You have the right to acquire this source code, change it, and re-distribute it. The warranty on our product is only applicable however if you are using the official firmware distributed by us. The source for the Open Source software contained in this product is available as a free download here. If you would like a copy of the source code for this product on a CD, please send your request to along with $9.99 to cover our cost to prepare and mail the CD to you. If you distribute your products' firmware online, you should also make the source code for the Open Source components such as BusyBox available online. Does that make things a bit more clear as to what is and is not legal? -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen http://codepoet-consulting.com/ --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons--
[BusyBox] Licence Paul Fox pgf at brightstareng.com Wed Dec 10 19:26:41 UTC 2003 > > I note your hall of shame page. i'm curious as to how this page was derived. most embedded systems don't give many clues as to where their code comes from, and even then, a customer would have to ask the company in order to determine that the source was in use and that the GPL code was denied them. is this what happened? paul =--------------------- paul fox, pgf at brightstareng.com
[BusyBox] Licence Erik Andersen andersen at codepoet.org Wed Dec 10 20:18:29 UTC 2003 On Wed Dec 10, 2003 at 02:26:41PM -0500, Paul Fox wrote: > > > I note your hall of shame page. > > i'm curious as to how this page was derived. most embedded systems > don't give many clues as to where their code comes from, and even then, > a customer would have to ask the company in order to determine that > the source was in use and that the GPL code was denied them. is this > what happened? In most cases, inquiring minds grabbed firmware updates and extracted the contents, -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen http://codepoet-consulting.com/ --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons--
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