OS/390 on Hercules (and not just that...)

seb_welton

Jan 31, 2002

Looking at a lot of the recent posts there seems to be a hell of a
lot of people running OS/390 (and VM/ESA) under Hercules. For the
benefit of us who are running only VM/370 and/or MVS 3.8 could you
let us know how you are doing this only I would dearly love to run
something newer?

From IBM re. ADCD:

"The S/390 Application Developers CD is a special packaging of S/390
Software for the exclusive use of product development and support.
It is restricted for use by qualified PartnerWorld for Developers
members on S/390 development systems that were purchased through our
program, or through approved IBM Business Partners that are fully
authorized to sell the FLEX-ES emulator from Fundamental Software,
Inc.. The S/390 ADCD SW stack is licensed to the specific system by
machine type/model serial number and cannot be transferred to any
other machine. Use of the S/390 ADCD SW on any other system or SW
emulator is strictly prohibited and is in violation of the terms and
conditions of the loan agreement."

(What about UMX then?)

and for VM:

"The current ADCD for VM is VM/ESA 2.4 ADCD.

Another option is z/VM 3.1 pre-configured. The z/VM 3.1 pre-
configured CD is not an ADCD. To order the z/VM 3.1 P/390
Preconfigured System on CD-ROM you must be qualified:

- Have a purchased or leased a P/390, R/390/ Integrated Server or
MP3000 through the developer's program.
- Be current with the terms and conditions of the purchase or leased
machine.
- Have a current project profile which provides a short description
and delivery date of the product(s) that you are planning to develop
and deliver on z/VM or for delivering on Linux for z900 and S/390"

If all these systems are running without the direct knowledge of IBM
then I presume someone, somewhere is doing something illegal. I
somehow think that IBM don't like that and I would really hate to
see this having a knock-on effect to the further development of
Hercules.

Cheers,

Seb

8:50 am

OS/390 2.10

hazeltex

Jan 31, 2002

I am a disaster recovery coordinator for a OS/390 2.10 shop. I would
like to test our apps out on Hercules, to see if it is an
alternative. How do I go about getting the release onto hercules?

9:56 am

Re: OS/390 on Hercules (and not just that...)

edamjr

Jan 31, 2002

--- In hercules-390@y..., "seb_welton" <sebastian@w...> wrote:
> Looking at a lot of the recent posts there seems to be a hell of a
> lot of people running OS/390 (and VM/ESA) under Hercules. For the
> benefit of us who are running only VM/370 and/or MVS 3.8 could you
> let us know how you are doing this only I would dearly love to run
> something newer?

snip..

> If all these systems are running without the direct knowledge of
IBM
> then I presume someone, somewhere is doing something illegal. I
> somehow think that IBM don't like that and I would really hate to
> see this having a knock-on effect to the further development of
> Hercules.

From Jay's website:

'It is believed that there are, however, three legal ways you could
run z/OS, z/VM, or VSE/ESA under Hercules:

Running under Linux on the Pentium processor of a P/390 which is
licensed to run the OS.
Running under Linux/390 on a mainframe which is licensed to run the
OS.
Running under the terms of a disaster recovery provision of the OS
license (but I really don't recommend depending on Hercules to be
your disaster recovery solution!).'

There should really be mention of a fourth category - Running on any
damn thing you please whilst employed by IBM ;-)

Actually, I strongly suspect most of those testing OS/390 etc. are
using option three - you're allowed to experimentally run OS on (an)
other box(es) 'for the purposes of testing and evaluating DR
scenarios', so long as you do NOT do any production work on said
other box.

Don't see how it could have an effect on Herc development anyway -
IBM would go after the folks running OS illicitly, not us - Herc
indisputable has many legitimate uses. Think Betamax...

Mike

10:35 pm