z/VM on Hercules
"herculessearch
Jun 21, 2007
Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation?
Thanks in advance for your help.
9:16 pm
Re: z/VM on Hercules
Josef Sipek
Jun 21, 2007
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:16:43PM -0000, herculessearch wrote:
> Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation?
Yes and no. As far as I know, there's no _technical_ problem, and hercules
can handle it just fine, but you need IBM to let you run z/VM - licensing
issues.
Josef "Jeff" Sipek.
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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
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9:31 pm
RE: z/VM on Hercules
William D Carroll
Jun 22, 2007
Like was stated, Technically it will run but proper licensing is required.
Problem is the installation, unless you install from TAPE or do a second
level install using the DVDPRIME you can not install it
The DVD/CD needs the SYSG console which is not supported by Hercules.
Doug
From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Josef Sipek
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:32 PM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:16:43PM -0000, herculessearch wrote:
> Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation?
Yes and no. As far as I know, there's no _technical_ problem, and hercules
can handle it just fine, but you need IBM to let you run z/VM - licensing
issues.
Josef "Jeff" Sipek.
--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
depends on the unreasonable man.
- George Bernard Shaw
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1:35 am
Re: z/VM on Hercules
Johnny Luo
Jun 22, 2007
William,
I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under
hercules.
I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?
On 6/22/07, William D Carroll <voxr@...> wrote:
>
> Like was stated, Technically it will run but proper licensing is
> required.
>
> Problem is the installation, unless you install from TAPE or do a second
> level install using the DVDPRIME you can not install it
>
> The DVD/CD needs the SYSG console which is not supported by Hercules.
>
> Doug
>
> From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of Josef Sipek
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:32 PM
> To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:16:43PM -0000, herculessearch wrote:
> > Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation?
>
> Yes and no. As far as I know, there's no _technical_ problem, and hercules
> can handle it just fine, but you need IBM to let you run z/VM - licensing
> issues.
>
> Josef "Jeff" Sipek.
>
> --
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
> depends on the unreasonable man.
> - George Bernard Shaw
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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12:46 pm
RE: z/VM on Hercules
William D Carroll
Jun 22, 2007
That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until
june 29th anyways)
Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for
5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to
allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected
Console Device.
From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Johnny Luo
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
William,
I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under
hercules.
I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?
On 6/22/07, William D Carroll <voxr@...
<mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com> > wrote:
.
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50957/stime=1182516454/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848642/nc3=4670553>
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1:33 pm
Re: z/VM on Hercules
Rich Smrcina
Jun 22, 2007
z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device,
if it happens to be SYSG that's fine.
William D Carroll wrote:
> That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until
> june 29th anyways)
>
> Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for
> 5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to
> allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected
> Console Device.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Johnny Luo
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM
> To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
>
>
>
> William,
>
> I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under
> hercules.
>
> I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?
>
> On 6/22/07, William D Carroll <voxr@...
> <mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> .
>
>
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1:46 pm
RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
William D Carroll
Jun 22, 2007
It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD
It does not require SYSG support once installed.
From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:47 AM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device,
if it happens to be SYSG that's fine.
William D Carroll wrote:
> That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until
> june 29th anyways)
>
> Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak
for
> 5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it
to
> allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected
> Console Device.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> Behalf Of Johnny Luo
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM
> To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
>
>
>
> William,
>
> I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under
> hercules.
>
> I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?
>
> On 6/22/07, William D Carroll <voxr@...
<mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com>
> <mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
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3:35 pm
Re: z/VM on Hercules
ronx_ronkonkoma
Jun 22, 2007
What about SIE, Hercules can't be implementing that???
--- In hercules-390@yahoogroups.com, "herculessearch"
<herculessearch@...> wrote:
>
> Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
7:01 pm
Re: z/VM on Hercules
Jay Maynard
Jun 22, 2007
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 07:01:31PM -0000, ronx_ronkonkoma wrote:
> What about SIE, Hercules can't be implementing that???
Can and does. z/VM ir reporeted to run well under Hercules.
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7:59 pm
RE: z/VM on Hercules
Paul Raulerson
Jun 23, 2007
Not required, but sure convenient and cost effective! J
-Paul
From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of William D Carroll
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:35 AM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD
It does not require SYSG support once installed.
From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:47 AM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device,
if it happens to be SYSG that's fine.
William D Carroll wrote:
> That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until
> june 29th anyways)
>
> Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak
for
> 5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it
to
> allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected
> Console Device.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
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] On
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> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM
> To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
>
>
>
> William,
>
> I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under
> hercules.
>
> I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?
>
> On 6/22/07, William D Carroll <voxr@...
<mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com>
<mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com>
> <mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
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> 50957/stime=1182516454/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848642/nc3=4670553>
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12:24 pm
RE: z/VM on Hercules
William D Carroll
Jun 23, 2007
If you can install z/VM from the DVD without having an existing VM
installation so you can use the DVDPRIME EXEC
I'd sure like to know how you get past the hardcoded SYSG console device in
DVD ?
I am not talking a second level install, I've been through this many times
on this list.
To install directly from DVD, first level requires SYSG support, you can
not use a CONS= statement for first level on
zVM =< 5.2, I don't know about 5.3 yet.
So if you know a way to install first level from the DVD please let me and
others know?
Thanks
Doug
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Behalf Of Paul Raulerson
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:24 AM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
Not required, but sure convenient and cost effective! J
-Paul
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:35 AM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD
It does not require SYSG support once installed.
From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
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To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device,
if it happens to be SYSG that's fine.
William D Carroll wrote:
> That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until
> june 29th anyways)
>
> Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak
for
> 5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it
to
> allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected
> Console Device.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
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> Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
>
>
>
> William,
>
> I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under
> hercules.
>
> I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?
>
> On 6/22/07, William D Carroll <voxr@...
<mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com>
<mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com>
<mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com>
> <mailto:voxr%40smgvbest.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> .
>
>
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6:00 pm
RE: z/VM on Hercules
Paul Raulerson
Jun 23, 2007
I was referring to: "It does not require SYSG support once installed."
You can also get around it via installing from tape images of course. It
sure seems like a lot of work though. It would be better indeed if IBM would
either just legitimize Herc someway or another. The open source licenses
appears to be a negative issue on this perhaps.
Anyway, yes, if you install from DVD, you need SYSG. How much trouble would
it be to emulate SYSG? And is there any other reason to do so given how
Hercules operates?
-Paul
From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of William D Carroll
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:00 PM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
If you can install z/VM from the DVD without having an existing VM
installation so you can use the DVDPRIME EXEC
I'd sure like to know how you get past the hardcoded SYSG console device in
DVD ?
I am not talking a second level install, I've been through this many times
on this list.
To install directly from DVD, first level requires SYSG support, you can
not use a CONS= statement for first level on
zVM =< 5.2, I don't know about 5.3 yet.
So if you know a way to install first level from the DVD please let me and
others know?
Thanks
Doug
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Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:24 AM
To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hercules-390%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
Not required, but sure convenient and cost effective! J
-Paul
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Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD
It does not require SYSG support once installed.
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Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules
z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device,
if it happens to be SYSG that's fine.
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> That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until
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> Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak
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> I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under
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> I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?
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11:29 pm
Re: z/VM on Hercules
Jay Maynard
Jun 23, 2007
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 06:29:01PM -0500, Paul Raulerson wrote:
> You can also get around it via installing from tape images of course. It
> sure seems like a lot of work though. It would be better indeed if IBM would
> either just legitimize Herc someway or another. The open source licenses
> appears to be a negative issue on this perhaps.
How do you mean?
> Anyway, yes, if you install from DVD, you need SYSG. How much trouble would
> it be to emulate SYSG? And is there any other reason to do so given how
> Hercules operates?
I don't know if anyone has any idea how hard it would be to emulate. I don't
believe it's documented.
Is there a reason to emulate it? Sure! Hercules is intended to be as
complete an emulation of the IBM system as we can make. That includes every
peripheral we can figure out.
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