Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!asuvax!ennews!stat! david From: da...@stat.com (David Dodell) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview Subject: The Future of DV/DOS? Message-ID: <NPB54B1w165w@stat.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 93 11:25:46 MST Reply-To: da...@stat.com (David Dodell) Distribution: world Organization: Stat Gateway Service, WB7TPY Lines: 18 I have been thinking about what to do with our systems in the next few months. OS 2.1 is about to be released, Windows NT, Unix .... all being 32 bit operating system. I'm still "stuck" with DOS/DV at 16 bits. Anyone have any feelings about migrating to the 32 bit packages? Or are their plans for a DV operating system without DOS? Or DOS 7.0 is rumored to be 32 bit, I assume DV will be accomodating that? I know future plans/products are not announced, but it is sure frustrating to fiqure what direction to go with. <sigh> David Dodell --- Internet: da...@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-6135 Bitnet: ATW1H@ASUACAD FidoNet=> 1:114/15 Amateur Packet ax25: wb7...@wb7tpy.az.usa.na
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview Path: gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu! cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!jmaynard From: jmayn...@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard) Subject: Re: The Future of DV/DOS? Message-ID: <1993May26.142828.22273@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: use...@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <NPB54B1w165w@stat.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 93 14:28:28 GMT Lines: 40 In article <NPB54B1w1...@stat.com> da...@stat.com (David Dodell) writes: >I'm still "stuck" with DOS/DV at 16 bits. Anyone have any feelings about >migrating to the 32 bit packages? Let me add the perspective from the OS/2 viewpoint... The key in this whole issue is taking advantage of the power of the [345]86 while not having to jettison your entire investment in software, which is often more valuable than the hardware it's run on, not to mention the investment in expertise. Here's one place where Windows NT falls down: it's explicitly designed with compatibility with existing software as a secondary consideration; Microsoft is only guaranteeing compatibility with the "top 100" Windows and DOS apps. DOS-based systems (including Windows 3.1 and DV[/X]) don't adequately take advantage of the 386 architecture because they're stuck with working within the limitations of DOS; it's not only possible, but easy, to bring the whole system crashing down around your ears with one errant program. OS/2 combines the best of both worlds: it runs nearly all DOS/Windows software (excepting mainly programs using the obsolete and insecure VCPI spec, and Winapps that require VxDs), and still keeps one program from crashing the whole system. Yes, this does cost extra in hardware, mainly RAM: 8 meg is a practical minimum (but the system runs very well in 8 meg: that's what the machine I'm running now has in it). That's a tradeoff some folks can't make - either they don't have a 386, or they can't afford more memory, or something like that - and for them, OS/2 isn't appropriate. For a machine that can run it, though, it's a Wonderful Thing. I'm still running DV CLassic and QEMM386 on my packet radio system at home because it won't run OS/2...but my main home system is an OS/2 box. So where does DV fit in? Except for those who need the special capabilities of DV/X, unless Quarterdeck divorces DV from DOS, it will increasingly become a low-end system, suitable only for those who can't run a true 32-bit multitasking OS. (IMHO, of course...and I'm a longtime DV user.) -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can jmayn...@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity. "I'm waiting for that "National data superhighway" to install an onramp in my house..." -- Gary Rich