Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.os2-l X-Mailer: MUSIC/SP V3.1.1 Message-ID: <26OCT94.18444426.0116.MUSIC@NEMOMUS> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 17:04:41 CST Sender: IBM OS/2 Unedited Discussion List <OS2-L@HEARN.BITNET> From: Jon Broyles <JOHN@NEMOMUS.BITNET> Subject: Re[2]: New York Times Disaster In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of WED 26 OCT 1994 09:32:31 CST Lines: 52 Response reposted from IBM's OS2BBS: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Response to Steve Manes From: IBM PSP Media Relations 10-25-94 Dear Customer: Regarding the NY Times review of Warp in the Science section of the Tuesday, October 25 paper; we feel it's important to let you know that we spent considerable time addressing the concerns the writer has with OS/2 Warp. Unfortunately, Steve Manes fundamentally disagrees with our positioning of Warp as an operating system, and thinks we should market it strictly as a Windows utility, and therefore thinks we haven't done an adequate job of "fixing" Windows. We spent a significant amount of time with Manes, discussing his issues: * Warp does not include device drivers for an Epson color printer and a NUMBER NINE video card that were just introduced. Response: we have plans to support it by year end, issue was simply timing of Epson's and NUMBER NINE'S announcement, nothing technical. * Windows under Warp is slow. Response: he used the Ziff Davis benchmark designed for testing Windows 3.1 applications, not 32-bit operating systems. Ziff acknowledges that it is not an adequate test for OS/2 performance. * Warp adds layers of complexity to an already-cumbersome Windows environment, and the Workplace Shell is too different from Windows. Response: this is where he wants IBM to fix Windows, and misses the point that we're trying to convert Windows users with a better product. Some background: Manes co-authored the book "Hard Drive" on Gates. He doesn't particularly like any OS and has had occasion to trash Windows, OS/2 and Apple's System 7.5. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jon Broyles Phone: (816) 785-4163 Assistant Director of Computer Services Fax: (816) 785-7197 Northeast Missouri State University McClain Hall 107 JOHN@NEMOMUS.bitnet / \ Adair Kirksville, MO 63501 JOHN%NEMOMUS@Academic.NEMOState.EDU \ G / #366 ** Team OS/2 ** jbroyles@MC107_61.NEMOState.EDU /\ /\ AF&AM ** Certified OS/2 Engineer ** Certified LAN Server Administrator **
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.os2-l Message-ID: <9410292134075526315@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 21:34:07 -0400 Sender: IBM OS/2 Unedited Discussion List <OS2-L@HEARN.BITNET> From: NicholasWa@AOL.COM Subject: Re: New York Times Disaster Lines: 4 Thanks for your note. I believe Manes used the correct Ziff-Davis benchmark and that his review was fair comment. IBM's irrelevant observation that he is the author of 'Hard Drive" (in fact he is not) might lead you to doubt the accuracy of their reply. - Nicholas Wade