Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!husc6! bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!killer!vector!rpp386!jfh From: j...@rpp386.UUCP (John F. Haugh II) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.sysadmin,comp.sources.wanted,comp.sources.d,comp.unix.xenix Subject: Please remove PD-YACC sources from your machine IMMEDIATELY Message-ID: <3532@rpp386.UUCP> Date: 3 Jul 88 17:04:34 GMT Organization: Big "D" Home for Wayward Hackers Lines: 84 [ Sorry for the wide posting. This really is very important ] Below is a copy of a letter which was received recently from AT&T. This letter explains the status of the ``Public Domain'' YACC which I recently posted about. Because of the incredible speed (heavy sarcasm) with which the USMail delivers letters, I didn't receive the delivery notice until last week. You should receive this posting before O. L. Wilson receives his signed and dated letter back via U. S. Mail. One interesting thing about this letter, the city in the address was listed as Renner, which is the same city South Western Bell thinks I live in for billing purposes. Renner ceased to exist several years ago when Dallas annexed it. How do you think AT&T found out where I live? Frightening isn't it? Especially when you consider the correct address is given in the UUCP maps? ;-) ;-) ;-). Immediately after the letter is a list of systems which may have received a copy of YACC via anonymous UUCP. Please check that your system is not listed, and if it is, that you do not have a copy of this software on your machine. Unfortunately I don't have the logs going back this far, but if your machine is listed, it has been in contact with rpp386 at some time during the period when YACC was available. Some of the machines are within the AT&T system, please, I don't have time to check the organization each machine belongs to. If you are an AT&T source licensee, you obviously don't have to worry. I think ... Also, the system names have been truncated to seven characters, courtesy of UUCP and the R_stat file. If you system name matches one listed below to seven characters, please consider your system to have been included in the list below. Thanks, - John. -- Dear Mr. Haugh: There was a netnews article on April 19, 1988 announcing that you had a list of files that [ are ] public domain. One of the files listed [ was ] YACC. YACC is not public domain software. The software is AT&T's intellectual property obtainable by licensing only. We must have your assurance that you have ceased distributing copies of YACC and that you have destroyed all copies in your possession. You may certify that you have ceased making and/or distributing copies of YACC and that you have destroyed all copies of the software in your possession by signing and dating the attached copy of this letter in the spaces provided therefor and returning such copy to us. If we receive such signed and dated copy within thirty (30) days, we will consider the matter closed. Very truly yours, (signed) O L Wilson -- FCPS IrsXeni ajmsys alice aquinas arcoexr atina atlpyr base16 basis bbussc bby-bc bellboy bigtex bms-at boake2 bpa bradley brave brcbkly brspyr1 bsadrc camber catuc ccd700 cesbws cimcor cline01 cloud9 cocktri cognos comdesi convex coplex corpane cp1 crdos1 crlabs cronus csccat daisy dalsqnt daver deincr dhPC-AT dhpcat didsgn entropy fasolt fbmtl fmsrl5 fmsrl7 frito ganglio gcfast gort grc gsg gunnix happym hombre hpxcnca htsrmx htwoo jarsun1 jassys jlsoft jmdst joshua killer kontron lan000 ldcx25 lngnck loci lotus madnix magnus marob mcl merk mipseas mjbtn mmd2 mpuls1 mpx1 ninja nsacray obiwan oncoast ontenv otishq ozdaltx pigs pollux qetzal raider rcf reason redwood rush sauron schen sherpa1 sialis simon skipnyc smergol soft21 spdyne spked srhqla stanton sulaco swlabs t9103 tau-cet tegan tester texsun tness5 tness7 top toplog ttdcl1 u-word ucmsa upcjsd uxcmb validea vector vijit viusys warble watabox wiuaz wybbs xenix28 xenix38 xnxcws yak ssc cdes wjt3pc xxx spsspyr swbatl hrsw2 infopro ucmdal tanelor mrmarx akinsol oss410 celerit elan rocky ateng n0atp ptisea comnet3 dms-at heaven csiris imsys sfkwj motown banana mp386 dsix2 -- John F. Haugh II +--------- Cute Chocolate Quote --------- HASA, "S" Division | "USENET should not be confused with UUCP: killer!rpp386!jfh | something that matters, like CHOCOLATE" DOMAIN: j...@rpp386.uucp | -- with my apologizes
Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!ames!killer!csccat!loci From: l...@csccat.UUCP (Chuck Brunow) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.sysadmin,comp.sources.wanted,comp.sources.d, comp.unix.xenix Subject: Re: Please remove PD-YACC sources from your machine IMMEDIATELY Keywords: Loose cannon Message-ID: <1327@csccat.UUCP> Date: 4 Jul 88 07:20:01 GMT References: <3532@rpp386.UUCP> Reply-To: c...@loci.uucp (CLBrunow) Followup-To: news.sysadmin Organization: Loci Products Lines: 62 In article <3...@rpp386.UUCP> j...@rpp386.UUCP (John F. Haugh II) writes: >[ Sorry for the wide posting. This really is very important ] This is an incredible botch! > >Below is a copy of a letter which was received recently from AT&T. This >letter explains the status of the ``Public Domain'' YACC which I >recently posted about. BTW, you checked his copyright? > >Immediately after the letter is a list of systems which may have >received a copy of YACC via anonymous UUCP. Please check that your >system is not listed, and if it is, that you do not have a copy of this >software on your machine. I checked. It is. I don't. But why am I listed with the entire who's who? Did I have anything whatsoever to do with this mess? NO! And I really don't like lists like this a bit. > Unfortunately I don't have the logs going >back this far, but if your machine is listed, it has been in contact >with rpp386 at some time during the period when YACC was available. Why the confession? Actions speak louder still. This is an ignorant hachet-job you call administration. I wouldn't care if you'd leave me out of it, but you want to play at name-dropping, "oooo look kiddies, all these connections", and link everyone with your foul-up. >Some of the machines are within the AT&T system, please, I don't have >time to check the organization each machine belongs to. If you are an >AT&T source licensee, you obviously don't have to worry. I think ... >Also, the system names have been truncated to seven characters, courtesy >of UUCP and the R_stat file. If you system name matches one listed >below to seven characters, please consider your system to have been >included in the list below. > Just what are you trying to say? Everyone who has access by any means (anon uucp, PC Pursuit) is touched. Why do you feel compelled to be so grandious? Did your dog die or something? >Thanks, >- John. >DOMAIN: j...@rpp386.uucp | -- with my apologizes In the recent past, you have posted personal attacks against other SA's, issued groups and threatened more in areas yet unresolved, and now this jesture. Are you sure you can handle a great big 386 all by yourself? Maybe you need training wheels? Why do you keep changing your names? Are you embarrassed to go by one name and live with what you say? Are you getting set-up to pull a bone-head JJ stunt? Why don't you just tell us what's next so we can avoid the rush to dis-connect. -- CLBrunow - KA5SOF Loci Products, POB 833846-131, Richardson, Texas 75083 c...@loci.uucp, l...@killer.uucp, l...@csccat.uucp
Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!killer!vector!rpp386!jfh From: j...@rpp386.UUCP (John F. Haugh II) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d,comp.unix.xenix,news.admin Subject: Re: Please remove PD-YACC sources from your machine IMMEDIATELY Summary: Why so upset, Chuck? Keywords: have you ever seen me really pissed off? Message-ID: <3577@rpp386.UUCP> Date: 5 Jul 88 14:51:44 GMT References: <3532@rpp386.UUCP> <1327@csccat.UUCP> Reply-To: c...@loci.uucp Organization: Toy Machine Guns for Tots Lines: 101 Name: Evil Dictator of the Dog Universe In article <1...@csccat.UUCP>, l...@csccat.UUCP (Chuck Brunow) writes: > In article <3...@rpp386.UUCP> j...@rpp386.UUCP (John F. Haugh II) writes: > >[ Sorry for the wide posting. This really is very important ] > > This is an incredible botch! why? you managed to see it. i suspect most of the systems on that list will have someone there who managed to see it. in particular, since those groups are where the instructions for accessing the system are posted. > BTW, you checked his copyright? i don't think mr. wilson will mind one bit. i would even go so far as saying it would be in at&t's best interest for that letter to be broadcast. > >Immediately after the letter is a list of systems which may have > >received a copy of YACC via anonymous UUCP. > > I checked. It is. I don't. But why am I listed with the entire > who's who? Did I have anything whatsoever to do with this mess? > NO! And I really don't like lists like this a bit. have you had access to this machine? yes. could you have picked up the sources? yes. have you been notified to remove them? yes. i think i covered my ass pretty well. and i don't care if you don't like it. > I wouldn't care > if you'd leave me out of it, but you want to play at name-dropping, > "oooo look kiddies, all these connections", and link everyone with > your foul-up. no, but if you'd like me to play ``oooo look kiddies, all these connections'', i could post a few dozen more names. by nature this system has gobs of connections. did anyone not know that??? is anyone amazed??? does anyone really care??? > Just what are you trying to say? Everyone who has access by > any means (anon uucp, PC Pursuit) is touched. Why do you > feel compelled to be so grandious? Did your dog die or something? i thought it was obvious. but then you have been trying to bully the net about with your recent arrival anyhow. and no, i don't own a dog. are you trying to out do even my reputation? > Are you sure you can handle > a great big 386 all by yourself? Maybe you need training wheels? well, i don't know. let's see what you have. #N loci #S AT&T 7300 ; Unix SysV, v3.0 #O Loci Products #C Charles L. Brunow hummm. are you sure you can handle a four year old obsolete 68010? and what exactly was the clock rate on that unix-pc of yours? maybe we should discuss MIPS. and what was the baud rate on that modem? something like 1200? please, don't be a complete asshole, chuck. your assholeyness starts to show when you attack a man's computer and dog. next are we going to play `` my brother can beat up your brother '', or are you just going to take your ball and go home? > Why do you keep changing your names? because i feel like it. > Are you > embarrassed to go by one name and live with what you say? nope. would you like me to repeat something i said? > Are you getting set-up to pull a bone-head JJ stunt? hummm. i feel it in my bones ... a bone-head jj stunt ..... hmmmmmm. > Why don't you just tell us what's next so we can avoid the > rush to dis-connect. nope. you've already been disconnected. i don't think you have any more worries. i suspect you will also discover that you can't get connected. even using the anonymous uucp login. i will also soon be working on an anti-loci program. i was going to use it just for keeping obnoxious fools out of here, but i suppose i can add loci.uucp to the list. > CLBrunow - KA5SOF > Loci Products, POB 833846-131, Richardson, Texas 75083 > c...@loci.uucp, l...@killer.uucp, l...@csccat.uucp remember that name boys and girls. would you buy a product from this bozo? and may the russian woodpecker infest your radio shack and set up permanent residence in your earphone. oh, yes, since we are obviously trading insults, may all of your cq's go unanswered. - john. -- John F. Haugh II +--------- Cute Chocolate Quote --------- HASA, "S" Division | "USENET should not be confused with UUCP: killer!rpp386!jfh | something that matters, like CHOCOLATE" DOMAIN: j...@rpp386.uucp | -- with my apologizes
Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu! mailrus!ames!killer!pollux!dalsqnt!rpp386!jfh From: j...@rpp386.UUCP (John F. Haugh II) Newsgroups: news.admin,comp.sources.wanted,comp.sources.d Subject: Re: Please remove PD-YACC sources from your machine IMMEDIATELY Summary: BISON will show up Real Soon Now(tm) Message-ID: <3593@rpp386.UUCP> Date: 6 Jul 88 00:29:22 GMT References: <3532@rpp386.UUCP> Organization: Big "D" Home for Wayward Hackers Lines: 18 Arg. Some people have written to express their dismay at the removal of YACC. I have obtained the GNU BISON sources and will soon have them up and running here. If you aren't familiar with GNU, it is a YACC replacement. My understanding is that BISON is better than YACC. You will get to be the judge. Also, the story continues. The YACC in question was the DECUS YACC. If you have any information concerning licensing restrictions on that YACC, please let me know. I am sending a tape containing the source off to AT&T for their inspection but would still appreciate a second opinion. - John. -- John F. Haugh II +--------- Cute Chocolate Quote --------- HASA, "S" Division | "USENET should not be confused with UUCP: killer!rpp386!jfh | something that matters, like CHOCOLATE" DOMAIN: j...@rpp386.uucp | -- with my apologizes
Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu! mailrus!ames!killer!pollux!dalsqnt!rpp386!jfh From: j...@rpp386.UUCP (John F. Haugh II) Newsgroups: comp.org.decus Subject: What is the status of DECUS YACC? Message-ID: <3594@rpp386.UUCP> Date: 6 Jul 88 00:30:54 GMT Organization: Big "D" Home for Wayward Hackers Lines: 12 Greetings NetLanders. I have received a letter from AT&T claiming that the DECUS YACC is property of AT&T. Could any of you clue me in on the exact ownership and copying restrictions on it? - John. -- John F. Haugh II +--------- Cute Chocolate Quote --------- HASA, "S" Division | "USENET should not be confused with UUCP: killer!rpp386!jfh | something that matters, like CHOCOLATE" DOMAIN: j...@rpp386.uucp | -- with my apologizes