From: dil...@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon) Subject: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C. Date: 1999/02/13 Message-ID: <199902130235.SAA10171@apollo.backplane.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 443844751 Approved: n...@camelot.de X-Trace: lancelot.camelot.de 918874367 14750 195.30.224.3 (13 Feb 1999 02:52:47 GMT) Organization: Mail2News Gateway at CameloT Online Services NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Feb 1999 02:52:47 GMT Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.hackers,mpc.lists.freebsd.hackers X-Complaints-To: abuse@camelot.de There is a small but interesting FreeBSD mention in LWN in an interview with Linux's Alan Cox. http://lwn.net/1999/features/ACInterview/ The whole article is interesting. I sure hope the linux people get a source control system together soon, it really sounds like Linus is getting strained. I checked out the linux kernel list archives and it looks like CVS has been suggested, but there's always someone who has had a really bad experience with it and that is stopping them from using it. Maybe someone in this group with ties into the linux groups can casually mention how well CVS is working for us to maybe get them to move to it a little more quickly. I have no doubt that they will be forced to do it at sometime or another. The sooner they do it, the better. -Matt Matthew Dillon <dillon@backplane.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
From: "Daniel C. Sobral" <d...@newsguy.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C. Date: 1999/02/13 Message-ID: <36C54726.B3A23548@newsguy.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 443920812 Approved: n...@news1.mpcs.com Sender: n...@news1.mpcs.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199902130235.SAA10171@apollo.backplane.com> Delivered-To: vmailer-hack...@freebsd.org X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Gateway: Unidirectional mail2news gateway at MPCS MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: mpc.lists.freebsd.hackers,muc.lists.freebsd.hackers X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: > > The whole article is interesting. I sure hope the linux people get a > source control system together soon, it really sounds like Linus is > getting strained. I checked out the linux kernel list archives and > it looks like CVS has been suggested, but there's always someone who has > had a really bad experience with it and that is stopping them from using > it. Maybe someone in this group with ties into the linux groups can > casually mention how well CVS is working for us to maybe get them to move > to it a little more quickly. I have no doubt that they will be forced to > do it at sometime or another. The sooner they do it, the better. Interestingly, there are people here that don't like CVS either. Now and then there is a thread about using something else for source control. It always dies because there is now free alternative that fixes all problems with cvs, so there wouldn't be much of a benefit. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@freebsd.org Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
From: Matthew Dillon <dil...@apollo.backplane.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C. Date: 1999/02/13 Message-ID: <199902130944.BAA14725@apollo.backplane.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 443920811 Approved: n...@news1.mpcs.com Sender: n...@news1.mpcs.com References: <199902130235.SAA10171@apollo.backplane.com> <36C54726.B3A23548@newsguy.com> Delivered-To: vmailer-hack...@freebsd.org X-Gateway: Unidirectional mail2news gateway at MPCS Newsgroups: mpc.lists.freebsd.hackers,muc.lists.freebsd.hackers X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Interestingly, there are people here that don't like CVS either. Now :and then there is a thread about using something else for source :control. It always dies because there is now free alternative that :fixes all problems with cvs, so there wouldn't be much of a benefit. : :-- :Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) :d...@newsguy.com :d...@freebsd.org There isn't much out there that we could replace CVS with, at least not that's proven, free, and works (mostly) without error with lots of people using it all at once. -Matt Matthew Dillon <dil...@backplane.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
From: Bill Fumerola <bi...@chc-chimes.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C. Date: 1999/02/13 Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990213054807.3018B-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 444002488 Approved: n...@news1.mpcs.com Sender: n...@news1.mpcs.com References: <199902130944.BAA14725@apollo.backplane.com> Delivered-To: vmailer-hack...@freebsd.org Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Gateway: Unidirectional mail2news gateway at MPCS Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: mpc.lists.freebsd.hackers,muc.lists.freebsd.hackers X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > There isn't much out there that we could replace CVS with, at least > not that's proven, free, and works (mostly) without error with lots of > people using it all at once. Not to go Microsoft bashing, BUT... We used MS Sourcesafe here locally for about 4 years, I haven't heard a single person yet who's said "let's go back" or "CVS can't do XXX as well as SS could." WinCVS is a godsend for my point-and-click-only people too. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <j...@zippy.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in LWN interview with A.C. Date: 1999/02/13 Message-ID: <10481.918927420@zippy.cdrom.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 444022468 Approved: n...@news1.mpcs.com Sender: n...@news1.mpcs.com References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990213054807.3018B-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes.com> Delivered-To: vmailer-hack...@freebsd.org X-Gateway: Unidirectional mail2news gateway at MPCS Newsgroups: mpc.lists.freebsd.hackers,muc.lists.freebsd.hackers X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If we wanted to use a commercial solution then the choice would be more than clear - Perforce! Our CVS repository meister(s) like it a lot and one can get copies of the perforce server for FreeBSD at the low low price of $1 (perforce's generous way of giving something back to the FreeBSD community). However, we don't want to use a commercial solution for lots of various reasons, not least of which the fact that we have one hell of a lot invested in CVS. Our CVS web stuff, the CTM delta generator, the ubiquitous CVSup program, all would have to be substantially redesigned for a new SCM tool and that would be a lot of work. - Jordan > On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > There isn't much out there that we could replace CVS with, at least > > not that's proven, free, and works (mostly) without error with lots of > > people using it all at once. > > Not to go Microsoft bashing, BUT... > > We used MS Sourcesafe here locally for about 4 years, I haven't heard a > single person yet who's said "let's go back" or "CVS can't do XXX as well > as SS could." > > WinCVS is a godsend for my point-and-click-only people too. > > - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - > - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@FreeBSD.org - > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message