Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu! moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu! newshost.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news From: mgr...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu Subject: Is AT&T listening?... Message-ID: <1992Jul23.200547.22246@cs.rose-hulman.edu> Sender: n...@cs.rose-hulman.edu (The News Administrator) Nntp-Posting-Host: manager.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:05:47 GMT Lines: 10 I have seen people from apple.com very active in the Linux newsgroup, which would seem like treason to me, and ADM and Intel people in the comp.sys.intel group, but we haven't heard from AT&T here. AT&T, are you listening? _______________________________ Joseph T. Batt mgr...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu _______________________________
Path: sparky!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!darwin.sura.net!mips!atha!canada!lyndon From: lyn...@ampr.ab.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Is AT&T listening?... Summary: Yes, and they're still a bunch of twits. Message-ID: <97@ampr.ab.ca> Date: 24 Jul 92 17:40:08 GMT References: <1992Jul23.200547.22246@cs.rose-hulman.edu> Organization: Boycott AT&T! Lines: 21 mgr...@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu writes: > I have seen people from apple.com very active in the Linux newsgroup, which > would seem like treason to me, and ADM and Intel people in the comp.sys.intel > group, but we haven't heard from AT&T here. > AT&T, are you listening? Yes, they're listening. c...@ulysses.att.com was kind enough to point out that one of my previous postings about the copying of /bin/true source code was incorrect. It is in fact, as he stated in e-mail, the BSD version of /bin/true that contains 'echo 0'. The System V version of /bin/true instead contains five lines of copyright notice, one line of version control information, and a colon. What really impresses me about System V's version of /bin/true is that it only took them four revision of the code to get a single character shell script right. Now THAT's the sort of intellectual property I would hire a building full of lawyers to defend! AT&T: just say NO.
Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!unido!adagio!grog From: g...@adagio.UUCP (Greg Lehey) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Is AT&T listening?... Message-ID: <1834@adagio.UUCP> Date: 25 Jul 92 12:01:28 GMT References: <1992Jul23.200547.22246@cs.rose-hulman.edu> <97@ampr.ab.ca> Organization: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany Lines: 51 In article <9...@ampr.ab.ca> lyn...@ampr.ab.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg) writes: >Yes, they're listening. c...@ulysses.att.com was kind enough to point >out that one of my previous postings about the copying of /bin/true >source code was incorrect. It is in fact, as he stated in e-mail, the >BSD version of /bin/true that contains 'echo 0'. The System V version >of /bin/true instead contains five lines of copyright notice, one line >of version control information, and a colon. The number of lines of code is irrelevant; what's important is the copyright notice. Look, for example, at an AT&T version of /etc/fstab. Do you have something like: # Copyright (c) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988 AT&T # All Rights Reserved # THIS IS UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T # No, come to think of it, this is utter bullshit. Apart # from this copyright notice, everything in this file has # been created by the local sysop. It contains no source # code whatsoever. # The copyright notice above does not evidence any # actual or intended publication of such source code. #ident "@(#)fstab.sh 2.3 - 88/05/26" # format: mountdev fs [-[rd]] [fstype] # This file is used by /etc/mount, /etc/mountall, and /etc/rmountall /dev/dsk/0s3 /usr /dev/dsk/1s4 /src allegro:/usr /allegro/usr NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft allegro:/ /allegro/root NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft allegro:/bsdi /bsdi NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft allegro:/var /var NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft allegro:/pub /pub NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft # grave:/ /grave NFS,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft # /dev/dsk/0p1 /c DOS Presumably I would not be able to give a copy of this file to a customer without an AT&T license, since it contains an AT&T copyright statement. I am not even allowed to remove it. It's not clear what would happen if I were to remove the file and start again from scratch, and what the difference would be between that line of action and just removing the copyright notice. -- Greg Lehey | Tel: +49-6637-1488 LEMIS | Fax: +49-6637-1489 Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany *** NOTE ***: Headers are mangled - reply to grog%le...@Germany.EU.net